Patek Philippe

Hey guys, I'm new on this board although have posted a few times over on the AP section about my ROO Diver I recently got. I've totally fallen in love with the 5980 but like many am unsure whether the charcoal or blue dial is the way forward. I like both ... 

The reference and serial number would change but ask ask ur AD he would know better

While I can't speak to Patek policy, everything I know leads me to believe that they would not do this and that you would be unwise to wish it. Changing the dial of a fine watch makes the watch undesirable to collectors, so you would be paying to reduce t... 

Is this a world-wide increase? As I've only really decided to go for a Patek recently I hadn't picked up on this! Do you guys have any details as to what % increase will be applied? I hadn't quite got to the stage of being ready to hand over the readies, ... 

you would end up with a mis-matched watch. Any future buyer who is willing to spend so much for a watch would know that the counter on the blue face is black and the counter on the black face is white. Buy the blue dial as it is classic Nautilus and in so... 

let me convince you to go for the blue dial who changes colour depending the light from blue to grey several times a day if I had the choice again I'd take exactly the same one...  

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very nice pictures!!

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Thanks for sharing them! R

if you're unsure which color to go with and hoping that PP will change out the dial for you, then I would suggest you think hard about which one would be the one you could NOT live without. That way, you'll be happy with your choice and your purchase. Alo... 

Buy either one and you will not go wrong. Blue is more classic for Nautilus, but black more rare and perhaps with a touch more "elegance."

for all the replies guys, and especially thanks for the photos. The 5726 has also sprung up as a candidate, and it's tough to decide which direction to choose. The 5980 has a nice chunky-ness about it that is quite modern and the bracelet is more versatil... 

I think the blue dial would win, because I'm just not super-keen on the charcoal dial's white on black date wheel. I guess in real life things might be different, but in pics the datewheel seems to stand out more in black than in white. So.... Blue 5980 v... 

Here are 2 pics to aid in your cause ...  

Its more rare and from what I heard will be discontinued in favor of the Gray....

The Nautilus range is a great all rounder and are superb. But I see that your have moved from having a Nautilus with a Chronograph complication or an Annual Calendar complication. Which from your 2 choices would you find more useful? Regards Tony

...I use my watches to tell the time. A date complication is nice, but anything beyond that is purely aesthetics, in my honest appraisal of how I use watches. I've really been big into watches for a few years now and never needed reminding of the day or m... 

I think that the blue dial outsells the black one... As far either being discontinues that would be anybody's guess unless you have inside information from Patek... I doubt that the blue dial would be discontinued as it is a much loved watch... It could a... 

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Back in 1990s, Patek (through their Henri Stern Agency in NY) would routinely swap out dials to replace with an alternative color. I changed the black dial on a 3970 with a white dial and I changed a pink (salmon) dial on a 5035 to black. They even let me... 

I think Patek general philosophy is three fold: 1. Patek is reluctant to make a "piece unique"............changing dial on 5980 (without changing date wheel color) would render it a non-standard piece. My guess is that Patek would not agree to do so, but ... 

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Great choices. I was just looking at the 5980 and the 5712 yesterday. What pushed me away from the 5980 was more of the size. Which also could be something you prefer. But it stands rather tall. I want something a bit more quiet, less like a rolex and mor... 

Doctor, Nice to see your comments. It's not only a detailed and nuanced analysis, but one that recognizes how others might prefer something different. Park