Officine Panerai

I have a Pam 51 that I purchased in Oct of 2003. It's from an edition size of 5000. It was purchased from Jewels in Time of Boca Raton FL.

The box an papers are here, and I'm  reviewing them . There's two booklets that appear to have serial number and movement numbers, but neither matches my watch. Then I have two credit card looking things. One has a serial number that doesn't match the watch, and is stamped as if it was purchased in St Maarten. The other is blank and seems to come from Hamburg.

Do I have two sets of paperwork? Does either match my watch? What should I do?

here's what you have -

the COSC certificates indicate the movement number and you cannot tie any of them to your watch unless you have a movement sticker (look on the box or in the pocket of the libretto).

Obviously the left warranty card is blank so it has no meaning. The one on the right indicates a watch with a case number OP6569 which according to my records does not match a PAM 51 but would match a PAM 115.

A millesimation of 5000 that you mention for your PAM 51 would make it an E series from 2002 with a case number of OP6560 or a C series from the year 2000 with a case number of OP6529.

HNY,

Asi

Apologies for some reason I can't upload pic from the outside of the box. The serial number matches the watch but, the movement number matched nothing on the certs.

I guess what confuses me is, the watch and box are real but, the certs don't match. Why wouldn't the jeweler just sell me the watch without the papers?

Next question is, if I ever sell this watch(and it's not for sale now), how would I represent it? It's a great piece. I've had it since 2003 and get compliments on it wherever I go

your jeweler must have mixed up your papers with another watch. A COSC certificate can be duplicated but only for a watch that is up to 5 years old. After that, you must send the watch to be re-tested in order to get a new certificate.

Personally, I would not bother, the 51 is a nice watch but not extremely rare or collectible (on the Panerai scale) and even if you sell it with box and partial papers you will not take a hit.

 

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Asi

...so there is a good chance they mixed up on the warranty card with the right serial number for your watch and decided to include a blank one but stamped by another dealer (hopefully authorized this time) in case Panerai wants to see one.  Was the watch pre-owned when you bought it?  I guess the lesson here is to check all papers when you are buying from an unauthorized source.

Blue

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I'm assuming you bought the watch pre-owned. The dealer probably is/was not familiar with various Panerai documents and/or those are what THEY received when they bought the watch.

The warranty cards are useless, and at least one of the COSC's also. That's ok...from what you say they watch is good. You asked about selling it. I can only say you should provide full disclosure that you cannot provide papers to the watch.

You don't need papers to enjoy your watch, I've bought plenty of watches without papers. Just a POM thing. Just enjoy it and mark it up to lesson learned.

Eric

You have 2 sets of paperwork that don't match your watch.  They're basically useless and might as well throw them away since it doesn't match your watch, unless your dealer accidently put in the wrong paperwork.  You can always try calling them up to see if they have the correct paperwork but that's probably a remote possibility since you bought your PAM51 in 2003.

Cheers,
Anthony