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A smaller Diving Wathc, the Master Mariner Deep Sea ( 37 mm ), and 2 years later, the Polaris II ( 43 mm ).

So, I don' t know if they were obliged to release such big watches.

Best,

Nicolas

you are correct when you say: "Happily, we're not all in love with the same lady!"

But most people, even if they happen not to be in love with a particular lady, wouldn't publicly say "She's as fat as a cow, and has the nose of a pig!" And most people understand that aesthetic judgments are primarily subjective.

Regards,

Tony C.

But alas where you lost it was consistancy, i remember you telling me how you or anybody else cannot possiblly spot a re-dial from a internet pic....which is fair enough i suppose...your opinions, your opinion. And then you go and mess the job up by not being consistant when Suitbert stated a dial was not original off an internet pic, in a thread you were involved in. The way your consistancy is performing you'll have folk thinking your sexist. Opinions are about what you feel....not what you feel forum moderators may want to hear....thats a different game entirely.

It wasn't my intention, just an image...

Best, and ...Peace!



Nicolas This message has been edited by amanico on 2009-07-06 10:25:06

....you might find Northern Englanders tend to call Fat Ladys..'Fat Ladys'...on account of them not being thin Ladys. I guess someone dreamt up the word Fat for a specific reason.

Do you think the case sizes were a brave new move from these brands Nic or more simply a case of them having to wear the proportions the manfacturers produced for them.. happy in circumnavigating the heavy research £'s associated with producing a 200m waterproof case.

 

Best Regards

Catherine.

 

The Longines Diver was born the same year, and the UG Polerouter too, or maybe a year before, for this last one.

It will be interesting to know when the other Big Super Compressor Case Watches were released, but let's assume that these 3 were among the very first to come in such a big size.

As I told you, JLC moved from 39 mm ( Deep Sea Alarm ) to 42 mm ( Polaris ) then to 37 mm ( Master Mariner Deep Sea ) and to 43 mm ( Polaris II )

So, I don't think JLC was " obliged " to use such a big case ( whose origins were the Piquerez Patent ), but a choice, to me.

Therefore, the big watches weren't the trend at this moment, so yes, I think it was a bit risky to offer such big sized watches, but this is just my opinion.

Best,

Nicolas

I guess we'll never actually know which way it went...i've always felt the Polaris looks to be gagging to have an external chronograph bezel dropped on it (along with a movement installed)....especially given it was the manual chrono period and maybe the polaris was a secondary use for the case style. Maybe not.

Best Regards

Catherine.

Catherine,

What I said months ago about identifying re-dials from (often poor quality) images on the internet has nothing whatsoever to do with our contributions to this thread. And if you had happened to have been a man, I would have characterized you as the "King" of red herrings, so sexism doesn't enter into it either.

And for the sake of accuracy, I never said that no one could "possiblly spot a re-dial from a internet pic...", I simply pointed out the obvious, which is that in subtle instances, it is difficult (and at times impossible) to do so with complete confidence and accuracy.

As far as the moderators go, and political correctness, I admire your willingness to speak your mind, and support your right to do so. What I don't admire – obviously – is your apparent need to disparage watch designs that don't appeal to you in such a crude manner. Not only is the odd vitriol unnecessary, but, ironically, it is also likely to turn readers off and obscure whatever meaningful points you may have to make.

Regards,

Tony C.

I make a comment on a dial ....you comment that i cannot possibly telly you accurately if the dial is authentic.

Suitbert makes a comment on a dial... you button it...stum....not a sausage.

I've already pointed out to you once that your line of chat is different in private to the line you take on forums....i've now pointed out that you are prepared to pull specific people only... put whatever spin you want on it and  tell me what iv'e wrote ^ is incorrect. 'Sauce for the Goose...your honour'.

Folk might not like my speak you say....thats funny cause you seemed to like it thanking me no end after writeing to me sniffing for information....you've compounded this this very year by telling me how consistant my speak is........Which end of the stick  do you want?

If you are intent on discussing irrelevant, very old, arcane threads, rather than addressing the topic at hand, feel free to e-mail me so that we might spare the other forum members.

I would suggest, though, that in the future, if you prefer not to respond directly to criticism, it would be more effective to say nothing.

...'Woooosh... right over the top'

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I'm glad I don't have the vintage bug (yet)!

Best,

Jed

Look at your Aquatimer, for example...

A lot of Vintage have this timeless look that the boarder with modern and Vintage is really thin...

Best,

Nicolas

Maybe more accurately put, I don't have an interest in collecting vintage pieces. Though I love to see them and read about them. I can appreciate them on someone else's wrist as easily as my own...for now!

Best,

Jed

But u have all the three great watch :o)

Congrats...

Best

Chung

Just need to enjoy!



Best,

Nicolas

they are not personally the kind of watch i want to collect, but i fully appreciate your desire to own them. we might have different tastes, but understand each others thought processes.

i have my eyes on a single crown Polerouter, not quite the same, but an historic icon. guess which year its from

best

Graham

All the different tastes are the richness of this forum.

As for your Polerouter, I think I'm able to guess the year...

Well done, my friend!

Best,

Nicolas

Hi Nicolas,

Polaris is always my fave alarm as the classic simple look never bore me out! Always like to look at it from different
angles.. And when the alarm is on, it rings a thousand words ! Lol

On the other hand, the Longines is quite attractive. The brown dial is really nice, maybe due to
fact I have penchant for brown dial. Which year was the Longines out in market?
Thanks for the report!

Cheers,
Linda

Excellent, Linda!

This is not a scoop, I'm a big Fan of the Polaris, fascinated by its volume, the thick domed plexy, the imperfect indexes, the finish of the dial, the special crowns, and this alarm which sounds like a big frog in Love ( On the Vintage, of course ).

I too am very attracted by the brown dials, and when I saw this Longines for sale, you can easily imagine my reaction.

Thinner than the Polaris, it is a superb watch, with its particular dial ( 3 / 6 / 9 / 12 ) .

As for the year of the release, it was 1962.

Best, and thanks for your enthusiastic input, Linda!

Nicolas

This message has been edited by amanico on 2009-07-06 21:37:55

Thanks for your spirited reply, Nicolas! My gut feeling tells me I definitely won't
be able to get my hands on the beautiful Longines as it looks vintage and sure
indeed it was out in 1962!!! I was not even born yet! Sigh..
You are a lucky man ! It is beautiful as it is. Since can't get it, let's move on to our
similar love for Polaris.LOL

I love the froggy sound! Yeah!! I love the dome plexi! I love the dial! The perforated
strap! Love the size! I love the froggy sound best!

What do you think of the new alarm piece? I find it quite cool and nice though in different
way from Polaris. Any input on it? Thanks

Cheers,Linda

The Re Edition?

It is indeed very different, but I love both of them.

What I regret on the Re Edition is to not feel the " Clong Clong " of the bumper when the watch moves on your wrist ( a cahracteristic of the Cal 815 / 825 )

The new piece sounds like a school bell, while the Vintage sounds lie a big frog in love.

The weak point on the Re Edition is the strap, as often with JLC, but things are changing, and you can always hunt a very nice strap for it.

One thing I didn't get:

Do you already own the Tribute To Polaris?

Best, my passionate friend.

Nicolas

You have the Vintage Polaris ? Or both together with the Tribute to Polaris?
I only have the Tribute to Polaris and I get what you mean by "school bell" sound!!
Now I wish I can hear the "clonk clonk" version! Sigh..

Do you by any chance have the picture of 1965 Polaris? As I only know that the 1968 is the
more popular one. But I want to see how the 1965 looks like.
The tribute I have is the one still with the unique colour (pale orange?) of the hour markers.

Have you ever written an article of Polaris and its history? If yes, you can refer me to where I
could read it (the date you wrote it) so you don't have to write lengthily to me about it

You also mentioned about the strap. What is it with the strap ? I'm curious...
I wish to learn more about Polaris. I like alarm.
What do you think of the Master Compressor Navy Seals Alarm? I find it quite nice, too in a modern way
Unlike Polaris. The sound is rather different though.
Hope you can share some infos!

Cheers to the alarm! Best to you too!
Linda