Independents

My much loved MIH is acting up - changes date at noon but not at midnight (can tell because the day has two displays, AM and PM).

Just got it in April

not upset at all - LOVE THE WATCH

Anyone else had any issues?

I love its simplicity but if it was even more simple by removing the chrono, which is on the back anyway and a bit pointless and thus making it a few mm slimmer, and have a working seconds sweep on the front I'd be first on the list..!!

Could they do both and raise even more money for the cause..??

Yours,

Andy.

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...press the button above the crown once. 

It's a great watch but, yes, the chrono is somewhat ineffectual and it does wear thick. All of that is forgotten and forgiven every time you gaze at that dial.

 

Cheers,

pplater.

utter simplicity and I'm surprised nobody else has picked up on the annual calendar mechanism with just 9 parts..!!

Andy.

You have the rare Southern Hemisphere edition: the single red dot is for 'pm' and the double red dot is for 'am'  Your date change is working perfectly after all!  ;-)

 

Cheers,

pplater

nt

Greetings,

The seconds hand disengaged completely upon activation of the chronograph function on my MIH a few weeks after I took posession....sent it for repair and it seems to be working fine now.

Regards,

Mark

The day wheel also became misaligned and spent most of its time between days.

Embassy was kind enough to sort out all the transportation arrangements for me.  Awaiting its return.  Another issue is the second hand not reseting to 12.  Didn't happened to mine but to a fellow collector who got it in the recent batch.

I wonder if this particular batch is tainted???

Like you, not upset at all and still love the watch.

Gaz

This is unexpected and disappointing. Very glad to hear all is well after the adjustments.

Do you think it has anything to do with how they ship the watch originally? No box, lots of bouncing around. While I like the newspaper/date idea, the packaging I used to ship the watch back for repair seemed more protected than the original shipment.

It was very secure within the Fedex box and wrapped in bubble wrap.  Who knows, maybe we got a couple of Friday Jobs. 

My other hypothesis is that the 7750 is prone to date change problems when adjusting the date during the wrong time period.  My Panerai 124 had an issue where the date got misaligned after I manually changed the date on the PM.  Perhap, and this is a BIG UNDEDUCATED perhaps, the sensitivity of this date change carried over to the annual calender module.

Anyway, I have these pictures to keep me company until she gets back to me...

Gaz

It's a wonder more of them aren't problematic.  At this level of production/exclusivity, I think you have to take the possibility of small problems as part of the charm of ownership. 

As the calendar mechanism is completely "in-house", I don't think blaming calendar problems on the 7750 base (which about as industrially refined as they come as far as mechanical movements go) makes a lot of sense in this case.

_john

is still the main driver for the annual calender. So it could have to do with the symptoms.

Best,
Magnus

Hello Magnus,

I believe all that is left from the 7750 calendar mechanism would be the calendar wheel itself and perhaps an intermediate wheel or two (I can't recall exactly what the 7750 calendar mechanism looks like off the top of my head).  It seems hugely more probable that one or more of the 8 or 9 additional components added to the MIH watch would be the problem, or of course the way they mate with the base movement possibly. 

At any rate, the point is moot as the problem is what it is and I'm sure the MIH folks will stand behind it and make it right.  All I'm trying to say is that the 7750 base movement is not know for having calendar problems other than perhaps being more prone to user inflicted damage than most other modern calendar movements.

_john

Can you recommend the best time of day to change date of a 7750-based watches to best avoid "user inflicted damage"?

Thanks,

Marc.

Hi Marc,

Typically the watch companies will recommend against adjusting the calendar between 9 PM and 2 AM or something to that effect, but it depends on that particular calendar mechanism and each additional display of course adds complexity. Because of this, it's a good rule of thumb to follow the manufacturer's recommendations somewhat religiously.

_john

Thanks John,

I'm looking forward to one of these MIHs in November, and it is great to hear about others experiences (good and bad) on this forum.

Marc.

since you assume that the fault most likely is caused by the additional gears of the annual calender, and then you suggest that the best time to set the watch is noon (which is when the annual mechanism adjusts the date from the hour wheel side (remember, its a dual driven date mechanism: both the hour wheel and the Valjoux's date mechanism feed in), I have troubles bringing this together.

All this in mind, I would think that early moning could be a good time to set the date on this particular watch.

Best,
Magnus

Hi Magnus,

Sorry for any confusion on my part or that I may have caused. I don't know the first thing about MIH calendar mechanism or how it mates with the 7750 base. I took Marc's question to be a generic one about the 7750, and in the instances where that caliber has merely a date or day and date, noon is a safe bet. In light of Marc's follow up, it's clear he is interested in the MIH specifically, and I'd have to revert to the meat of my previous recommendation which is to follow the manufacturer's instructions.

_john

Sorry for the confusion: I appreciate your (plural) precision. Indeed I am more interested in MIH vs generic 7750 recommendations.

So I did a little searching and exerpted below from the "MIH book" on the watch website, interestingly does not mention favorable/unfavorable times:

Owner’s instructions
"The MIH Watch sports the tried and proven ETA-Valjoux calibre 7750 – an automatic movement whose 40-hour or so power reserve is full after just thirty turns of the crown. Apart from the pusher that controls the stopwatch function, the crown is the MIH Watch’s only operating element. The time is set as with any other mechanical watch: you pull the crown out two stops and turn it either way. If you have had to wind the watch because it has stopped, or you have travelled to a distant time zone, you must ensure that the AM-PM display is correct – it is located to the left of the day display and takes the form of one or two red dots. Setting the day/date is simplicity itself if done in the correct order: start by setting the correct day of the week by turning the hands (i.e. with the crown pulled out two stops, as explained above). Once the time, AM-PM setting and day of the week are in sync, you can move onto the month and date, as follows. Pull the crown out one stop and turn it clockwise until the correct date is showing (note that changing the time backwards (see above) will also reverse the date display).  ..."

Marc.

half a minute before zero for mine . I heard its a  pretty common problem amongst owners in Singapore .

I brought up the problem to Embassy and they told me to send them some pictures . I did exactly that but havent heard from them since and its been 2 months .

 

 

George

 

Luckily I got it fix locally, courtesy of a friend in one of the retailers. So far working fine although I seldom activate the chrono for fear of it not zeroing again. Cheers, Jim

i know that the title is a huge mix of metaphors, but i really do hope that this is just a glitch in the last production run.

i've got one coming in November and not paid for it yet. should i be worried? or should i appreciate it for what it is, a superb rare timepiece with a conceptual background and therefore possible associated problems.

i must admit, i've never come across any of the problems that people are associating with the 7750, but i'm not a big chrono user despite having owned a lot of them in the past. you've got to use it for it to go wrong.

fingers crossed for getting a trouble free one.

dont worry Andy, you can come and dribble over mine while i drown your U1

interesting post

Graham

for trouble free adventures as Graham has pointed out i do think graham that these details will be ironed out as all problems have occurred way before now, so hopefully all will be well and we can enjoy our rare piece. Garry

So my MIH is back, and working great. I enjoyed a long and very pleasant call with the gentleman from the service center when he called personally to tell me it was on its way back.

I can not address the concerns that future owners might feel given the postings pertaining to the troubles with the April batch - but I can say from personal experience that everyone involved in solving the issues was attentive, professional, and very supportive.

So rest assured that not only will any lessons learned from these issues be incorporated in the next batch (this is my assumption and what I have been lead to believe from various conversations - not a guarantee) but if anything does go wrong, there are many real people there to make it right.

Support the Museum, enjoy the piece, and relish in the ownership experience (for better or worse) and the people you meet alone the way.

my 2 cents.