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Hi All, this 5230 New York belongs to my PuristS friend who is too shy to post. LOL!
I think it is a very lovely piece ! Pure Patek DNA in that it exudes understated elegance!
His comments regarding this reference are:
"It’s a very elegant watch. I think the dial is better than the 5131 enamel maps because the blue New York skyline motif is more discrete. A gentleman’s worldtimer. Case design is very nice too. Perfect for a business suit or even in jeans. No real cons."
High praises from a Patek VIP !
What do you guys think ? How does it compare to 5131s in terms of the dial and value relative to 5131 ?
Cheers,
Gordon
His comments regarding this reference are:
"It’s a very elegant watch. I think the dial is better than the 5131 enamel maps because the blue New York skyline motif is more discrete. A gentleman’s worldtimer. Case design is very nice too. Perfect for a business suit or even in jeans. No real cons."
High praises from a Patek VIP !
What do you guys think ? How does it compare to 5131s in terms of the dial and value relative to 5131 ?
Cheers,
Gordon
Hi FRAM, thanks For your quick reply!.
So if you were living in the US, you would get one ?
Cheers,
Gordon
Cheers,
Gordon
Cheers,
Gordon
Cheers,
Gordon
Totally different watches, in terms of dial proportions and decoration ( guilloché / enamel )
As for the value, the market will tell. It is a bit too soon, I think.
But there is some room for both, I am sure of that.
Best,
Nicolas
Hi Nicolas, what I meant was that...
5131G costs around $x whereas this 5230G costs around $y. With y below x, which would be selected if you can chose either? Does the difference matter to you ?
Cheers,
Gordon
Cheers,
Gordon
NYC!! Great city and a great watch! Love the skyline and the river view! [nt]
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Hi Gordon, no offence but IMO it's in a different league than any 5131 in terms of elegance, class and artistic pretence.
I would even prefer a standard 5230G or R over this iteration which I find a bit kitschy. Best, Volker
Hi Volker, thanks for your honest reply !
The dial seems quite discrete. Why do you think that it is kitschy?
Cheers,
Gordon
Cheers,
Gordon
It reminds me of etching and similar objects that are very popular with certain groups of tourists. [nt]
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They’re not opposite but complementary, in my opinion, as they’re deeply different. I have a soft spot for this one but it’s just a matter of personal taste
I particularly love the hour hand which makes me think to a skyscraper which perfectly matches the context of the NY dial.
Best wishes
Alkiro
Best wishes
Alkiro
Thanks Alkiro, you always have a different perspective!
Hour hand like a building ! Good catch !
Cheers,
Gordon
Cheers,
Gordon
I would love to have that! Congratulations to your friend...
but I feel it’s hard to compare this with the enamel dial WT, each has its merits.
Very lucky and well heeled owners will have both 😬
Rgds
Raymond
Hi Raymond, you did get some LE New York watches, right ?
Did you not ask for this reference ?
Cheers,
Gordon
Cheers,
Gordon
I did ask for this but unfortunately not important enough to get allocation 😭
I asked for 4 watches and got 2, still happy though.
My wife got the 7200/50G and I am getting the 5522A, still waiting for delivery.
The other 2 are this NYC men’s 5230 and ladies 7130G.
Rgds
Raymond
Hi Raymond, two LE New York pieces are already...
plenty good !
Leave some on the table for others who are not VIP like you.
Chee s,
Gordon
Leave some on the table for others who are not VIP like you.
Chee s,
Gordon
In Patek world, I’m so damn far from being VIP...
I’m know you definitely are since you have those enamel WT, Beijing Maison editions and 5575G.
However, I agree I’m very happy with the allocation.
Cheers to you too!
Rgds
Raymond
However, I agree I’m very happy with the allocation.
Cheers to you too!
Rgds
Raymond
Thanks Raymond ! IMO, VIP is really a...
relative term.
China (and other countries) VIPs buy unique pieces. I do not want to know what one has to buy or pay before a unique piece can be bestowed on the person.
Cheers,
Gordon
China (and other countries) VIPs buy unique pieces. I do not want to know what one has to buy or pay before a unique piece can be bestowed on the person.
Cheers,
Gordon
That's a splendid version...
Well, about your question, they are so different watches. I think it comes to what one wants but hard to find elements to compare.
Your friend has made an excellent move as it is a beautiful watch and interesting model regarding the context and colors used. He has obviously expressed his preference for the 5230G NYC and that's a great catch.
However, I personally can't compare both references you mention. Indeed, on the one hand you have an exceptional enamel work with a more classical case, on a bracelet, while on the other hand you have an engraving with a totally different "spirit", and with a crafmanship that requires quite some skills and knowhow.
In the end, the watches we enjoy are not necessarily the most expensive or the level of craftmanship. They should sing to us. Many creteria to take into account which are very personal
All depends on the level you compare. I would have maybe chosen the 5230 NYC because of budget, chance of allocation, everydaywear potential (as I use my watches over a long period). But, if craftmanship or poetry were my goal, then I would have chosen the 5131P.
As for value, as you know we won't mention this part here (as no one even know the answer) :p
Thanks a lot for sharing Gordon, much appreciated and congratulations to your friend!
Best, Mark
Hi Mark, thanks for your comments and the value reminder !
My intention in value was really based on the owner's surprising comment regarding his take that this reference is better than 5131 ! You know how I feel about the 5131, right ?
Apologies if I crossed the line !
Cheers,
Gordon
Apologies if I crossed the line !
Cheers,
Gordon
No problem Gordon!
You didn't cross it, I just reminded that point but in a total neutral way, no problem. We're only "chatting"
Best, Mark
I shall be candid as always :-)
Nice watch but the 5131s are at a different level. This watch may appeal more to someone living in New York due to the skyline - yes it is discreet but the colours on the enamel dial (like on your lovely 5131G!) are quite spectacular. The fact that no two enamel dial watches are exactly similar speaks volumes - hence their second hand resale value. Yes they are difficult to come by but so is your friend's watch. Also the number of enamel dials that had to be destroyed before one is produced make the 5131s that bit more special.
I am glad your friend loves his watch but the 5131s are in a different league altogether in my opinion.
Thanks sham for your comments !
I love my 5131G and also think highly (but not as high as my 5131) of this 5230 New York because the blue discrete dial color matches the blue strap very well.
They are complementary don't you think ?
Cheers,
Gordon
They are complementary don't you think ?
Cheers,
Gordon
Agreed!
They match beautifully but then again,so does Alkiro's Chronometre Bleu's strap and watch (yes I have been secretly admiring your posts Alkiro!! )).
The 5230 New York is a nice watch but not special enough in my opinion.
)).The 5230 New York is a nice watch but not special enough in my opinion.
