A. Lange & Söhne

It was around since 1999. I am undecided if this is the right change but I look forward to seeing it in Jan.

- SJX

Perfection need not, cannot be improved upon.

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Lange did the right thing: Left the basic DNA of the watch untouched but added useful touches like power indication (extremely useful- there is nothing more annoying when your watch stops because you didnt wind it). Perhaps the only negative: Does the case really have to be 41mm? 39mm was fine...!

...in size and appearance.  Now if they make the DS more like the Dato (by adding a date) I'll be in big trouble!

Will be interested to see this one in the metal...

Best,

Gary G

according to the press release. I would assume the new dial DS is the same.

- SJX

that may be the trick to pull me out of my horofatigue.  In fact, date not required but a 39MM DS will be great.  Easier to put complications in bigger cases...

Next thing we'll want it to price like a speedmaster :-P

I'm relieve that this new version not an improvement over the 1st one but another interpretation of the dato line.

Don't you see it? Datograph, Datograph Perpetual and now Datograph Auf.

I don't know whether they did it on purpose but I have come to believe that Lange was not thinking about improvement but different interpretation. Are the last 1815 chronograph and the new one the same watch? Or is one better than the other?

I thinks they are different watch. Try to make ourselves into taking side will only succeed in developing a huge migraine.

Regards
Tyler

PS if you happen to like this new one call me. I might have a new home for your old one.

It's not BS simply put.  A lot of subsance in it.

Well I try my luck. This proof you are not in horocoma just horopicky or horoanalysis-peralysis ... LOL

I doubt you will ever be able to get rid of the dato man. This dato is Dato' to us Malaysian/Singaporean. I'm talking nonsense now I best shut up. :-P

Regards
Tyler

Merry Christmas.

a worthy evolution/refreshment, which I am really looking forward to see in a few weeks.

Oliver

And maybe ONE day...own it!

I can't wait to see in in the metal. Perfect sizing to satisfy everyone too.

As a very fond owner of the DG, the biggest improvement will be the 60 hour power reserve. I am less sure about the power reserve indicator itself, which adds clutter to the dial. I also love the roman numerals at 2,6,10, and the batons make the dial look less stylish. Let's wait for it in the flesh and put the 2 side by side.

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the new in-house balance and spiral are important improvements along with extended PR and indicator. My only regret is the expanded size. I prefer the old dimensions especially for my small wrist.  Look forward to seeing in the flesh

Finally!

Im new to learning about Lange watches but just wondering is the lack of a zero for single digit dates a Lange signature design or could the new Datograph get the extra zero?

Also IMHO the newer model looks better.

IMO, the date is easier to read as it is, plus it avoids confusions (02 with 20, etc.)

It is also part of the strong personality and unique charm of the Datograph. I hope they don't change that. They have already lost the 3 roman numerals and the slightly thick proportions...

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks a lot passtemps for the reply. I can understand the historic charm argument of the Datograph which is fair enough for keeping the date as is but certainly not the confusion point!

A Dato with a 0# date indication 9 days per month would just not be a Dato.
And yes, i agree, readability is secondary.

More than anything else, i'll miss the roman numerals on the new Dato. They look daringly fantastic on a chrono! And they make a triangle, complementary to the main triangle.

The existing Datograph is fabulous. The new one is probably going to be excellent.

BW,
Fred

Completely agree on the authenticity side of things and I think I may agree with you in regards the roman numerals too. As you seem to have a keen eye for detail I would be very interested to hear your opinion on something that also changed which is very subtle but I think is an improvement on the original. I haven't seen many people mention it yet but I think the reduction in the size of the minute markers around the dial is a vast improvement and to my eye makes as big a difference as the absence of the roman numerals. Definitely makes the dial a tad cleaner with the markers reduced size but also the removal of the 5, 10, 15, 20 etc text around the circular edge. I would be interested on your thoughts on this new feature when you see them side by side below?

Would be interesting actually if we had a photoshop expert on here to see the reduced minute markers but also to keep the roman numerals in place.

Suppose this is all what if's anyhow as we have what is coming and it's still the best chrono on the planet IMHO either way.

Cheers

Yes, the difference in the size of the hands is a GREAT improvement, IMO the best improvement of the new Dato.

What i think they have done is, thanks to the wider case, they have enlarged the MINUTE hand, while the HOURS hand remains the same, exactly like on the Datograph Perpetual (same diameter, if i remember well, as the new Dato).

My opinion is that this is an excellent improvement.

But, for me, the Classic will always remain the Classic. And yes, that is the BEST CHRONO ON EARTH. With such a movement inside, a very difficult benchmark to beat by any other brand, any time.

BW,

Fred

 

 

 

This message has been edited by passetemps on 2012-01-11 02:28:50

Thanks Fred, but I was more talking about the markers indicating each minute around the dial which have been shortened in length with the 5, 10 etc removed also. All great improvements in my opinion. Agree with you about the hands too though, much better.

Cheers

You are absolutely right!

The detail that you mention, i had not noticed on the first press images...

It looks good, but honestly, i prefer to see the tiny 55, 60, 5, 10 on the dial. These enrich the dial, they make it more interesting, even more so with a loupe, as the finishing of such details is always fabulous at Lange.

We love to watch the Dato dial because a lot is happening on it, study all the details, etc. If they remove too many details for the sake of simplification, then it becomes less interesting.

But of course, there is the PR indicator which, personally, i like very much (although on the other hand i don't care for more than 36 hours PR).

BW,

Fred

 

 

 

 

Thanks Fred, good to get another point of view on these little changes. Will be great to see it on users rather than the PR photos we see at the moment...

Cheers

...then my advice is to get hold of a Classic Datograph while you can, and while the new one starts its long journey to your AD...

F.

 

 

I can only dream for now, maybe a few more years and a few more promotions...

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I love the increased power reserve, and the idea of the 41mm dial. Not too sure about the thicker dial though.  Can't wait to see it in the metal.