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Apr 02, 2020,12:12 PM
From those examples I have owned before and examined very closely, This is how I will rank them.
For absolute aesthetic viewing, 1) Dufour Simplicity (it truly glows), 2) Kari Observatoire (it is great but it dulls once you place it next to a Simplicity) 3) Eichi 2
If based on photo, Rexhep Rexhepi will be ranked no.2
For absolute punishing finishing... 1) Eichi 2, 2) Ducfour Simplicity. Have not seen a third one yet. Why Eichi 2? The straight lines finishing is totally revealing of one's skill. No way to hide.
Is finishing that important for me? No. Still, these are superlative watches on its own
. A finishing of Patek 5101's standard is high enough for my naked eyes.
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Best cosmetic finishing
By: Ronald Held : March 26th, 2020-10:03
Motovated by an Eichi II thread, I decided to start this. Not certain if the watches should be ordered best to "worst", or just a group of the best.
Hard to argue with Dufour...
By: mdg : March 26th, 2020-10:12
...or Greubel Forsey (even though I think they are too large with too much writing on the movements). It would be interesting to see what Lange could do if they made a bespoke watch... On the other hand, I've always thought it would be interesting (if I w...
Kari Voutilainen.
By: afl : March 26th, 2020-10:20
He is the best in movement and dial, one of the best in cases too imho. In artistic point of view; Grieb & Benzinger. But they do only decoration mainly on existing Patek or Lange movements.
Kari (KV, MbF, etc), Dufour, Rexhep
By: Gelato Monster : March 26th, 2020-18:29
Honestly it is difficult not to say Kari is no 1. IMHO Kari, innovation and execution is just out of this world
Sorry I miss this...
By: CL : April 2nd, 2020-12:12
From those examples I have owned before and examined very closely, This is how I will rank them. For absolute aesthetic viewing, 1) Dufour Simplicity (it truly glows), 2) Kari Observatoire (it is great but it dulls once you place it next to a Simplicity) ...
That's just pure observation...
By: CL : April 3rd, 2020-11:20
When I place the two watches next to one another, I feel that Simplicity is more organic while Observatoire's finishing is more calculated. Simplicty's finishing will make one's heart beats faster while Observatoire's finishing is technically great. Havin...
Also,
By: CL : April 4th, 2020-12:41
I am curious if Kari actually does the finishing himself? I don't remember this detail.
Yes
By: 1528523921 : April 19th, 2020-03:23
How about the finishing of greubel forsey and romain gauthier?
Something I was thinking about...
By: jleno : April 4th, 2020-21:01
In terms of total finishing effort, how do you think the typical choices here (Dufour, Voutilainen, etc.) compare to some of the high art pieces from big brands such as VC's metiers d'art line. Although the top independents usually have a higher level of ...
I can only comment based on my past experience.
By: CL : April 5th, 2020-09:46
I have seen VC skeleton minute repeater next to a Simplicity. The finishing cannot be compared. I have also compare Patek 3939 next to a Simplicity, cannot be compared too. Does it matter to me? Not really unless I am walking around with a loupe on my eye...
They are different styles of finishing however.
By: jleno : April 5th, 2020-11:02
Undoubtedly Dufour is better at anglage, but I'm assuming he is not a master engraver, can't make a cloisonne enamel dials, etc. To answer the question better, I'd probably want to know how long did it take to learn how to properly execute the finish and ...
Then in this case,
By: CL : April 5th, 2020-11:07
they can't be compared. I guess we can only compare an apple to an apple. I'm just comparing on their movement finish. For example, when we compare a Lange Datograph with a Patek 5070, you will see the HUGE difference. Then if you compare the top independ...
True it is inaccurate.
By: CL : April 5th, 2020-12:56
What I mean is Simplicity is not a watch that you should expect it to be super accurate. If you compare it with a fine tuned Grand Seiko, it cannot compare. If you compare it with most top Swiss watch, it is as good, not better. Then again, no one expect ...
No, nothing against Dufour's watches.
By: CL : April 5th, 2020-13:00
But there are people out there who actually think that he makes everything himself. If they want such a watch, try Roger Smith or Kari... not sure if they do everything but close to it. I guess you would know that the movement design is obviously from ano...
That's very good point.
By: CL : April 5th, 2020-13:44
I agree with you. It does have merit but I am not sure how significant is that.