Reference 4946, 4945 and 4930

Dec 18, 2016,02:20 AM
 

Hello, wow, you really dug out an old post. For a moment I thought Nilo just bought a new GP, well, perhaps now that you reminded him... 


So a couple of clarifications as this has been asked a few times before.

Ref 4946, also called the Vintage 1999 Chronograph first appeared on the Year 2000 Catalogue. In that catalogue, it was shown with still the ETA-based 2280 movement. You need to know that the Year 2000 catalogue had a number of differences with what was actually produced. I suspect, the catalogue was printed and after they made some changes to the collection.

In fact, Ref 4946 eventually came in two versions, both steel, one with cream dial, golden numbers and hands and one with black dial and silver numbers and hands 38mm case and see-through case back with the inhouse GP caliber 3xxx.

In the same catalogue, the Pour Ferrari F399, Ref 4945 was introduced. Same case as 4946. Interestingly, in the catalogue, 4945 was only shown in precious metal, yellow, pink and white gold. I have never seem any of those in real or photos and I strongly suspect they do not exist. Instead, the F399, Ref 4945 that has been produced was a steel case, black dial and golden numerals/hands with solid case back and Caliber 2280 (ETA modified)

I don't know the production numbers but both 4946 and 4945 are quite rare.

Now, there is another one that falls into that line, which is Ref 4930, also called the Vintage 1996 Chronograph. Essentially this was the first one and appears in the 1998 Catalogue. It has the same case design and dial design but in 36mm. Ref 4930 was only produced in precious metal, yellow, pink and white gold and also had the inhouse caliber 3170 and a see-through case-back.

Hope that helps.

CC


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My first, or should I say second GP ...

 
 By: nilomis : July 23rd, 2012-14:40
Since I saw Andrew post about his GP1999 Chronograph, Ref. 4946 I started looking for a similar watch. The discrete elegance of Andrew's GP in association with his great review was a strong trigger. GP does not have a strong presence here where I live and...  

That is an excellent catch, Nilo.

 
 By: amanico : July 23rd, 2012-22:51
These GP Chronos are very nice. Sensual, elegant... If only they didn't have this date! ;) Enjoy yours, it is a pure beauty, even with the Date. :) Best, Nilo and congratulations! Nicolas

Very nice. I wonder if there has been a feature made...

 
 By: Echi : July 23rd, 2012-23:11
where you can hide the date window if you don't need to have that information. maybe something like a sliding cover. could be a mechanical nightmare though.

The simpler would have been to make a plain dial.

 
 By: amanico : July 23rd, 2012-23:21
What JLC did for the TT DSA.... Whiich houses a Cal 956 which normally provides the date. Best, Nicolas

I have mixed feelings about the date ...

 
 By: nilomis : July 24th, 2012-04:21
I own two identical watches (Longines LLD) with and without date and it seems that every time that I need the date I'm wearing the without the date. There are companies that implements the date disk better (The LLD date, as an example). Others, like Rolex... 

Congratulations!

 
 By: dxboon : July 24th, 2012-00:03
I love your pictures! You manage to make a handsome watch even nicer! A great choice for your (growing) GP collection! Cheers, Daos

Very nice watch Nilo.....

 
 By: Sandgroper : July 24th, 2012-01:45
I just got my first GP few weeks ago and I LOVE it, very nice photos too! En passant, Mario Andretti won the Formula1 Championship in 1978, although born in Italy, he was American when he won:) Kind regards from cold Down Under! Francois

Thanks. About Mario Andretti ...

 
 By: nilomis : July 24th, 2012-04:25
For sure, and Mario also did well on Indy racing later. Phil Hill was the first American to win (1961). Cheers, Nilo

Beautiful watch congratulations! [nt]

 
 By: Ares501 - Mr Green : July 24th, 2012-03:47

Congratulations!

 
 By: AndrewD : July 30th, 2012-19:43
Dear Nilo, Congratulations on the Ref. 4945. Very pleased I played a small part in pushing you towards it. These GP chronographs are perfect on the wrist and enormously pleasurabl... 

Details ...

 
 By: nilomis : July 31st, 2012-09:47
Thank you Andrew for the introduction to the GP chronographs. I'm loving the watch and as much I look to the GP, more I like it. I notice that, like the Zenith, the date is located at 4:30 but, here is a nice detail, the data window does not breaks the ta... 

Reviving an old post with some questions...

 
 By: alfanator : December 17th, 2016-16:05
Hi. I am curious what the differences are between a 4945 and 4946. Please teach me, thanks!

Please make a search here in our GP forum on 4945 and 4946 and you will find some info

 
 By: blomman Mr Blue : December 18th, 2016-00:56
But let's hope CC can give more details! Best Blomman

Reference 4946, 4945 and 4930

 
 By: crown comfort : December 18th, 2016-02:20
Hello, wow, you really dug out an old post. For a moment I thought Nilo just bought a new GP, well, perhaps now that you reminded him... So a couple of clarifications as this has been asked a few times before. Ref 4946, also called the Vintage 1999 Chrono... 

Thank you for the clarification, CC! [nt]

 
 By: blomman Mr Blue : December 18th, 2016-10:31

Thanks for the response

 
 By: alfanator : December 24th, 2016-16:39
I just picked up a 4945 with black dial, lovely watch. To summarize, the 4945 had a solid case back with 2280 movement, and the 4946 had display backs with the 3XXX movements?

Hi CC, indeed a rose gold 4945 does exist!

 
 By: NT931 : March 17th, 2019-07:32
Saw one on sale today online. The black dial and RG case go well but I wonder about the choice of numerals on top and none below. ...  

All I have from the seller is this pic

 
 By: NT931 : March 17th, 2019-17:57
Not the clearest, but the "4945" reference is at the bottom ...  

What a nice GP-Chrono !.. Like the contrast between dial color & hands/indices ! :))

 
 By: hs111 : December 25th, 2016-01:50
Sincere Congrats & wear it in the very Best of your Health ! Cheers & Have a great Xmas Sunday ! hs

Classic G-P Nilo!

 
 By: jporos : March 18th, 2019-06:25
Love the piston pushers.