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Movement comparison.....

 

between the Lange Saxomat & the Patek 240 cal.  Do you favour one over the other?

Both are versatile and are used in simple to complicated timepieces as they incorporate smaller rotors allowing for additional functions without compromising too much on the dimensions of the watch .When it comes to finishing and technical prowess, how do they compare? I can only make an amaturish judgement when viewing the movements through a loop but am not technically proficient enough to make an assessment.Personally,I feel their level of finishing is comparable, although I do like the swan neck & hand engraved decoration of the Saxomat.

The Saxomat has the zero reset function and from personal experience it also winds more efficiently, in part I think due to the larger & heavier rotor with the platinum edge.Is this a plus for the Saxomat?

Any other factors or characteristics to differentiate between the two, such as reliability,accuracy etc.?

Your views and comments will be highly appreciated as I'm hoping find out more about these two movements and how they stack up to each other. Thank you and looking forward to your wise words & comments.smile

cheers

fernando

PS. If anyone has better movement pics. pls. take the liberty to include these.smile

PP cal. 240:

Lange Saxomat:

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Interesting question.

 
By: foversta : April 25th, 2010-02:59
In fact I has the will to prepare something around this topic. In the meantime, I propose you 2 pics to illustrate your question. The main difference between them is than one has a micro-rotor while the other one has a three quarter rotor. Fr.Xavier...  

Well, Fernando

 
By: amanico : April 25th, 2010-05:21
The Swan Neck, the 3 Quarter Rotor and the German finish are the main characteristics of the Lange movement. The Micro Rotor of the PP Cal 240 is not bad, either. It is just a matter of taste, IMO. Both of them are attractive movements, seen on other watc... 

My thoughts too Nicolas.

 
By: fernando : April 25th, 2010-06:58
So there's really nothing between these too & it just comes down to a personal preference or deciding by what's on the other side of the watch.Knowing that you have watches with both of these movements I guess it's correct to say that you find them at... 

Fernando, I don't have an answer, but

 
By: CaliforniaJed : April 25th, 2010-09:57
...you might also want to consider the Chopard L.U.C Calibre 1.96 along with the other two! There are some old threads in which the three movements are discussed. I agree with Nicolas that it's difficult to make a qualitative choice among the two (or thre...  

Thank you Jed for bringing in the other players...

 
By: patrick_y : April 25th, 2010-14:20
Thank you Jed for bringing in the 1.96 Chopard L.U.C movement, a fantastic movement in its own right. We also should recall that Piaget also has a watch with the micro-rotor movement, and also Piaget was one of the early adopters of the micro-rotored move...  

I'm worried...

 
By: aaronm : April 25th, 2010-11:14
it looks like the 2 rotor screw are loose in your 240cal picture! I think I prefer the 240 for complex watches, it is so thin that one can mount a QP or other module on it and not end up with a really thick watch. I also like the slightly-off-center locat... 

I noticed that too!

 
By: patrick_y : April 25th, 2010-14:16
I noticed that the two rotor screws seemed to be loose as well. Again, the 240 is truly a very versatile movement. You can have a Patek Philippe 5140 perpetual calendar in a watch that is thinner than even the Patek Philippe annual calendar. The Celestial... 

I'm a fan of the Patek Philippe Caliber 240...

 
By: patrick_y : April 25th, 2010-14:14
I consider myself to be a major fan of Patek Philippe's caliber 240. This is one of my favorite calibers from Patek Philippe and this was the first caliber that drew me to the brand. Thus, I will state that I am biased towards the 240. Do note that the sc... 

You guys are sharp!

 
By: fernando : April 25th, 2010-19:08
I was hoping someone would notice the loose screw. It's an old pic. from an old 5040. It has subsequently been brought in for service and remedied.Jed, I agree the Chopard LUC cal.1.96 is also a good candidate for comparison as evidenced by your pic.It's ... 

One More Off-centred Movement - FP

 
By: YMA : April 26th, 2010-18:41
Sorry for the not-so-good quality photos. Micro-movement is indeed very interesting and I would like to add one more off-centred movement, which are in my current collection as well. It is made from Frederic Piguet Caliber 71. It also features a off-centr...  

Personally....

 
By: MiniCooper : April 27th, 2010-10:26
I prefer the PP movement.... The Lange is beautiful but I associate Lange with manual movements.... cheers

Saxonia!

 
By: =RWK= : April 28th, 2010-20:26
I like the platinum weight on the rotor, the hacking/zero-rest feature of the movement is awesome! -- Richard.