Rolex Sea-Dweller 116600 vs. Porsche 911 Analogy
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Rolex Sea-Dweller 116600 vs. Porsche 911 Analogy

By ImranLondon · Apr 1, 2017 · 12 replies
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Miranda draws a compelling analogy between the Rolex Sea-Dweller and the Porsche 911, exploring their parallel evolutions and the concept of a '996 moment' where a beloved design undergoes a significant, potentially divisive, transformation. The author questions whether the discontinued SD4000 (116600) will truly escalate in value as predicted, using the air-cooled 911 as a benchmark for collector desirability.

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Run, run quickly and buy the discontinued SD4000!!!!
That it appears is the advice, short production time- 2014-2017. Even the esteemed "Mr Rolex" is advocating we all jump on one. I can only assume the rationale being that they will hugely escalate in value. But...will they?

Pause for a second. If you like the Porsche 911, there is only one true Porsche 911 - the air cooled variety. Don't get me wrong, I do not own a Porsche, have driven the 996- and loved it. But for Purists the pre 996, 911's are the ones that they crave- they have gone up in price more than any other car that I can think off. So I ask myself a question- when did the Sea Dweller have its 996 moment?

before I get to this conclusion, lets explore the 911/SD hypothesis- they both started in the 60's, with a design evolution that we can describe as "slow" at best. Subtle tweaks rather than revolution.

The 60's saw greats as the 1665 Double Red and the first incarnation of the 911. 67 was a brilliant year of course , patent pending and 911s









Both instantly classics in design. Both hugely expensive- but if you could afford both- wow, what a tasty combo.

Both car and watch evolved at snails pace, just look at the 2.7 RS and this 1665 mk 2- 






 both sumptuous.

The Porsche went onto become the 911SC, the 1665, the "great white" and evolved into the 16660










you see evolution for sure, but that iconic line for both is still there. You could put them side by side with their 60's siblings and some would not believe they are decades apart.

The 16660 evolved slowly into the 16600, and the Porsche became the 964, then the gorgeous 993.












The lineage to the 60's is clear. Wether you have a 1665 or 16600, we know it is a classic SD. Same with Porsche. 
Icons. The word is banded about a lot, but you can see the classic 911 and SD are true to its meaning.

Then Porsche 911, grew up. The 996, was (is) technically a superb car (I have driven one on a track, they are brilliant), but did it loose something in its groundbreaking revolution?
Is it what is known as "soul" ?






You can tell the 996 is a 911- but its not the same- its more grown up. Revolution as opposed to evolution? The 996 became the 997 (an even better car), and celebrated its 50th birthday









Seeing the 50th anniversary 911, you know see the departure - from the classic 911. the pure lines of the 911 are gone.

So when did the Roles Sea Dweller have its 996 moment?

i have thought about it a lot- Rolex never had a 996 moment. Instead with the demise of the 16600- we had the DeepSea. The 996 never happened. Instead we went straight to the 997- yes the SD4000 of 2014.
If you read my review of the SD400, you will know I loved it. BUT- it is not (in the same way the 996/997 are not) the classic lines /soul of the 1665 Sea Dweller. It is  brilliant watch, but now today, with the launch of the new 43mm 50th anniversary, I see only one SD I would rather have that is still affordable.

The ref.16600. The last of the air cooled Sea Dwellers. Just as pre 993 is revered so the 16600 will be. Just my opinion- but sometimes rarity is not every thing. So run , run fast to bag a Sea Dweller, but I will be trying to bag one with those sublime, sumptuous classic lines.

Just my opinion of course - but what do I know! wink

Best
Imran








The new Porsche 991- fatter, bigger, better but has it lost its soul?


About the Porsche Ref. 911

The Porsche Design Chronograph I, reference 911, represents a significant early offering from the brand, establishing its design philosophy in the watchmaking world. This model is notable for its minimalist aesthetic and functional approach, reflecting the brand's automotive heritage through its focus on legibility and material choice. It was conceived as a tool watch, prioritizing clarity and durability over ornate decoration, a characteristic that set it apart from many contemporaries upon its introduction.

Crafted with a black PVD-coated stainless steel case, the Chronograph I features a distinctive monochromatic appearance. The case diameter measures 40mm, providing a substantial yet wearable presence on the wrist. It houses an automatic movement, specifically the Valjoux 7750, known for its robustness and reliability. The watch is fitted with a sapphire crystal, ensuring scratch resistance, and offers a power reserve of approximately 48 hours.

This reference holds particular appeal for collectors interested in the origins of Porsche Design's horological ventures and the broader trend of black-cased watches. Its straightforward design and mechanical integrity make it a compelling choice for those who appreciate a blend of automotive-inspired engineering and practical watchmaking. The 911 reference is a foundational piece, illustrating the brand's initial vision for a performance-oriented timepiece.

Specifications

Caliber
Valjoux 7750
Case
Black PVD-coated stainless steel
Diameter
40mm
Dial
Black
Crystal
Sapphire

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Andy
Apr 1, 2017

It seems to be a very interesting subject at the moment. Although I like the new one, especially the size, it just isn't enough to fit in the collection and the previous 4000 is too similar to my sub to fit in the collection..!! Yours, Andy.

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agyzace
Apr 1, 2017

Owning the 964 Jubilé and having owned the 16600, I see the similarities. I have a weak spot for the 116600, but there are three things that are big bummers/flaws: 1. Rolex-marked rehaut, which is a deal breaker for me 2. shiny ceramic bezel, which makes the watch a bling item 3. the fact that the bracelet sits higher than the case\'s lugs, which is something beyond me, why would they design something as flawed by default Hence, the 16600 is the clear winner for me too. All the best and thanks f

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blomman Mr Blue
Apr 1, 2017

I fully agree on your assessment! Best Blomman

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amanico
Apr 1, 2017

I like the way you compare the 911 and the SD. Maybe you could also say that like the 911, the new SD is bigger. Did it loose its spirit? I don't know. Somehow, yes, with this cyclop. I am not thrilled by the last opus, but I have to see it in the real before any final judgement. Let's say that, for me, the last desirable SD is the 16660. As for the Porsche, I am a big fan of the 964. Like the Daytona 16520, it is a bit a " best of both words ". Best, my friend. Nicolas

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Anatol
Apr 2, 2017

Owning a 1665 DR and a 16600 as well as a '68 911S and a 964RS, I can fully relate to your analogy. To me, however, the 996 of Seadwellers was the 116600, for similar reasons like those given by Alex: the bracelet endlinks that do not match the case horns but also the lifeless semi-matte dial. Actually I much prefer the new SD and have ordered one already. I just hope it is not too big for my wrist as I am very much used to 40mm Rolex.

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Baron - Mr Red
Apr 2, 2017

SD4000 is a lovely watch. But it\'s no icon.

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