Rolex 5513 Comex Submariner Differences
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Rolex 5513 Comex Submariner Differences

By Bill · Oct 19, 2012 · 21 replies
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Bill embarks on a fascinating exploration of two seemingly identical Rolex 5513 Submariners, revealing subtle yet significant differences that distinguish a rare early Comex model. This detailed comparison highlights the nuances of vintage Rolex collecting, focusing on dial characteristics, lume plots, and the presence of a helium escape valve.

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This will be a fun exploration.

In this first picture you will two watches which appear to be very similar. The Rolex coronet is almost identical very close to the Bart Simpson. The flat bottom is distinct. The Swiss t<25 also fills the space right to the edge between the minute marker. However the ft are not the same alignment.







By now I am sure you are a little curious. Big deal. A little examination and we see the lume plots are different. One appears to be about a 1mm closer to the minute markers and a little larger.










Your interest is still high.

The revealing shot.




The helium escape valve.

Now you can see what you have, the early Comex 5513.





Another piece on interesting Rolex info. These early Comex still did not have the Comex marking on the dial. It has all of the other characteristics with the serial engraved inside the case back and the obvious helium escape valve. I am sure there will be some controversy as to whether no Comex on the dial meet the broad consensus but this is what I have observed.   This was an encounter with a friends watch.

Enjoy

Bill

About the Rolex Submariner Ref. 5513

The Rolex Submariner reference 5513 is a notable example within the Submariner line, distinguished by its two-line dial and lack of a date complication. Produced for an extended period, it represents a core offering for collectors seeking a straightforward and robust tool watch. Its design emphasizes legibility and functionality, aligning with the original purpose of the Submariner series. This reference is recognized for its consistent aesthetic throughout its production run, with subtle variations in dial text and bezel inserts.

The watch features a 40mm stainless steel Oyster case, offering durability and water resistance suitable for its intended use. Powering the reference 5513 is the automatic Caliber 1520 movement, known for its reliability. The crystal is acrylic, contributing to the vintage character of the watch. The unidirectional rotating bezel, typically with an aluminum insert, allows for elapsed time measurement.

For collectors, the reference 5513 is a significant model due to its long production history and the various dial iterations, such as gilt and matte dials, which present distinct collecting opportunities. Its appeal lies in its foundational design and its position as a non-date Submariner, making it a desirable piece for those who appreciate the model's original form. The watch is often paired with an Oyster bracelet, completing its functional aesthetic.

Specifications

Caliber
Cal.1520
Case
Stainless steel
Diameter
40mm
Dial
Black gilt
Water Resist.
200m
Crystal
Acrylic

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amanico
Oct 19, 2012

This one is my favourite, with the Vladesque Triple 6 Comex. Now you need a Milsub, English or French, to have your bases fully covered. Damn, you have an IMPRESSIVE collection of Subs! Best, my friend. Another one I will have to see in the flesh! Nicolas

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Bill
Oct 19, 2012

and I have a long way to go... A+ Bill

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DrStrong
Oct 19, 2012

withy such an early Comex number on a 5513, there is no controversy on the "no logo" dial. Any history with the watch ?

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DrStrong
Oct 19, 2012

...at least this one has a BIG issue number, not like the Comex or RN Milsub...LOL

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Anatol
Oct 20, 2012

We do seem to have many watches in common. In this case, even consecutive numbers! Comex 5513 no. 81: As pictured in the Mondani Submariner book: I had a Comex logo dial in stock which has been fitted meanwhile - just to know what you have on your wrist without the need to look at the back: Enjoy your beautiful Comex, Bill! Those are really special watches!

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Ross Povey
Oct 20, 2012

fantastic watch Bill. I kind of like them without the Comex logo on the dial - stealthy!! I was recently offered a Pre-Comex 5513, full set which was lovely. I love the Comex coronet and the early ft first matte dials. The taller coronet is the true Maxi (Like on 5517) and has the five variations. TomVox has a brilliant article on VRF on the dial archive pages (don't think I'm allowed to post a link!) I think you need to put a HEV in your Cx though ;-) Enjoy that watch!! Ross :)

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