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dr.kol provides a meticulous side-by-side comparison of two Patek Philippe Nautilus references, the 3712 and 5712, delving into subtle differences often overlooked. His detailed analysis, complete with measurements and personal observations, offers a rare, in-depth look at these highly sought-after models. This post is invaluable for collectors seeking to understand the nuances between these closely related Nautilus iterations beyond market value.
The Patek Philippe Complications Reference 5712 is a notable offering within the brand's Complications collection, distinguished by its asymmetrical dial layout and a suite of practical indications. It presents a sophisticated blend of functionality and design, offering a moon phase, power reserve indicator, and an analog date display, all arranged to create a distinctive visual identity that sets it apart from more traditional Patek Philippe designs.
This particular reference features a stainless steel case measuring 40 mm in diameter, housing the self-winding caliber 240 PS IRM C LU. This movement is known for its slim profile, achieved through the integration of a micro-rotor, contributing to the watch's comfortable wearability. The watch is fitted with a sapphire crystal and offers a water resistance of 60 meters, with a power reserve of approximately 48 hours.
For collectors, the 5712 represents an accessible entry into Patek Philippe's complicated timepieces, offering a range of functions without the complexity of a perpetual calendar or chronograph. Its stainless steel construction and integrated bracelet provide a robust and versatile option, appealing to those seeking a daily wearable complicated watch. The reference has been in production since 2006, with the 5712/1A denoting the stainless steel bracelet variant.
I would never have guessed the 5712 would be thinner and heavier! If I was completely unaware of rarity and asked to pick one to go I would have grabbed the one closest to me hoping the offerer would not have time to change his or her mind But if it was a real offer based on me rationalizing the choice, I probably would have gone 3712 simply as dial is more sober, as you noted. But agree differences are so subtle. Love the fact that you have both! I suppose you do not like to take the easy path.
take from the winder the one my eyes are hitting first. There is no real difference on the wrist. But in a way I would compare 3712 vs. 5712 to 3940 vs. 5140. The newer models are a bit bigger but when the sizes of numbers were increased on the dials, the watches lost something from their elegance and the dials become more crowded and messy. But that's just my opinion. Best, Kari
...that I can't tell there is one that I prefer more than the other, and clearly no I would not pay the present premium for the 3712 today. Am I mistaking about the 1 red dot difference in the reserve de marche ? 3 dots for the 3712 and 4 for 5712, is it correct? I am not sure on the pics, Best, Mike
Or am I mistaken between the 3712 and 5712? Anyhow: I would pick the 3712. The dial is more balanced and that extra tiny lume index gives it a little quirkiness. Wish I bought one before the price explosion.... #fail
Love that 3712! Why did you get a 5712? Or did you have that first?
I just did not want to list the small differences because there are many. Same watch as you said. Still taking into account today's market prices, 3712 must be a good investment. The indicated production numbers I heard from Patek are quite low and I am sure one day 3712 will be really appreciated because of its original case construction and rarity. But I did not want to talk about "value" either. Just spend my Sunday. Best Kari
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