Patek Philippe 5970P Perpetual Calendar Chronograph

patekova · 2023-12-21T20:07:21Z

Explore patekova's journey with two Patek Philippe Ref. 5970s (Platinum & Yellow Gold). Discover community insights on collecting multiple references and the unique character of each metal.

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In a testament to the enduring allure of specific references, patekova, a seasoned collector, shares their journey of acquiring not one, but two Patek Philippe Ref. 5970 perpetual calendar chronographs. This article delves into their personal reflections on the distinct character of the 5970P and 5970J, sparking a community-wide discussion on the rationale behind collecting multiple variations of a single, beloved reference. Their insights offer a unique perspective on the emotional and aesthetic drivers behind high-end watch collecting.

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I thought to myself, platinum is platinum and in many ways at least for me it is the ultimate metal in a watch. But the thought of yellow never quite left me and so about a year later I began the search. As usual I wanted one that was mint unpolished and complete. One that I could wear immediately. When I was offered one that was double sealed I thought why not? But then after acquiring this “neo vintage” marvel that might be the only DS in the World I vacillated back and forth as to what to do? Since I planned to wear the watch I knew it made much more sense to have a preowned one. I searched. I tried. Didn’t happen. I almost literally felt like the DS was calling out: “ help, get me out of here” and so yesterday I gave in to that thought and could not be happier.

I know it is a bit redundant to have 2 of the same reference. Makes much more sense to not have duplications, but as logical as that is, that is just not me. Eg If I see a sweater I love I buy 4 of the same thing in different colors. Kind of silly, no?

Anyway, I think the P and J, which are the 2 rarest of the standard production are so different in character that I feel almost like they are 2 different watches. Also it is my favorite reference of the modern era. For me it is a perfect watch.

I am wondering which do you prefer, the P or the J?

And does it make any sense to you at all to own 2 5970s, versus eg a 5970 and a 5370P, another fantastic watch?

I hope you enjoy the images and don’t mind my self reflections.

Best, Patekova

About the Patek Philippe Split-Seconds Chronograph Ref. 5370

The Patek Philippe Reference 5370 is a split-seconds chronograph, a complication highly regarded in horology. It stands out in the Patek Philippe collection for its focus on a technically demanding chronograph mechanism without additional complications, presented in a classic and refined aesthetic. This reference appeals to collectors who prioritize mechanical complexity and traditional watchmaking.

The watch features a 41 mm case, available in either 18k white gold or 18k rose gold, with a polished bezel. It is equipped with the manual-winding caliber CHR 29-535 PS, a movement known for its innovative split-seconds mechanism and column-wheel control. The power reserve is approximately 65 hours. A sapphire crystal protects the dial and offers a view of the movement through the case back. Water resistance is rated at 30 meters.

This reference is notable for its enamel dial, offered in black or white, which provides a depth and finish characteristic of high-end watchmaking. The 5370 appeals to collectors seeking a pure expression of a grand complication chronograph from Patek Philippe, valuing its technical execution and understated design. It represents a significant offering within the brand's complicated watch lineup.

Specifications

Caliber: CHR 29-535 PS

Case: 18k White Gold or 18k Rose Gold

Diameter: 41 mm

Dial: White or Black

Water Resist.: 30m

Crystal: Sapphire

Key Points from the Discussion

The Patek Philippe Ref. 5970P, with its black dial, offers a stark contrast and a powerful, stylish wrist presence, while the 5970J exudes warmth, classic vintage vibes, and superior legibility due to its white dial.
While yellow gold and rose gold versions of the 5970 may appear similar and potentially converge in color over time, the platinum model stands out with a distinct case and a more emphasized aesthetic.
The yellow gold 5970J possesses a distinctly vintage and almost casual feel, making it a versatile addition to any collection.
For some collectors, the warmth and vibrancy of yellow gold are highly preferred over white metals or black dials, even if this preference might be considered unconventional by some seasoned enthusiasts.
The 5970 is widely considered a 'perfect watch' due to its ideal proportions, balanced complication, and exceptional wearability across all metal variations.
The decision to own multiple examples of the same reference, such as two 5970s, makes perfect sense to many collectors, especially when different metal and dial configurations offer distinct wearing experiences.

The Discussion

Cozmopak

Dec 21, 2023

I was eyeing this watch

I think I know where you got it!

TeutonicCarFan

Dec 21, 2023

Wow two brand new looking examples!

I get it. They have very different vibes, platinum and black dial, yg and white dial. Very nice combo. If I had to pick one likely the P for versatility and that it's platinum. Otherwise that J is really top class too!

patekova

Dec 21, 2023

Thank you for your very kind words. Platinum, is well … yes … platinum.

amanico

Dec 21, 2023

If you really have the means, why not getting both of them? I would go for the platinum, if I could. For me, as you said, it is a grail.

patekova

Dec 21, 2023

I hope that someday the dream becomes a reality and that you will be posting your platinum. I know from things you have written previously how you feel about this watch

I would be thrilled to see that happen.

amanico

Dec 21, 2023

The planets have to be seriously aligned, for that. :))))

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