
sham1 presents a collector's dilemma, seeking advice on choosing between three Patek Philippe perpetual calendars: the discontinued 5136G, his recently acquired 5940G, and the new 5170P. His quest for the 'ultimate' watch, balancing fit, comfort, and value, drives a discussion on personal preferences and the nuances of high-end watch acquisition. This article explores the intricate decision-making process of a seasoned collector.
I must be a magnet for predicaments as I seem to be in search of the ultimate watches in terms of fit, comfort, dial, movement, elegance and accuracy and function. Whereas many may settle for an extremely good timepiece, I make it intentionally difficult in that I prefer not to compromise because if I do, I know I will end up selling the watch sooner or later. So in my search for this so called ultimate collection (ultimate for me at least), I came across a watch last weekend which I would not normally be even considering as it has a gold bracelet but its perfect fit on my wrist has aroused feelings within me that seldom occur. What does not help is that I purchased a 5940G only 4 months ago so to add another perpetual calendar (ok so it is round faced and on a bracelet) might seem an overkill. Or is it an overkill?!! I am referring to the discontinued 5136G which I spotted at the London Salon. (Go grab it guys to help me in my decision making!
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Then, to ensure that my decision would be even more challenging, I had a short audience at Patek in Basel and also fell in love with the new 5170P. I always thought it would not be possible to be in love with three watches simultaneously but I am guilty as charged. So in your wisdom, would you kindly advise me which of the two watches below you would have given a choice (yes, you can choose two!!
) Yes, I know the decision is ultimately mine based on my demanding criteria but I would love to hear your opinions please.
Thank you very much in advance for your time and your feedback.
Best wishes,
Sham



The Patek Philippe Complications Reference 5136 is a perpetual calendar wristwatch, a notable inclusion within the brand's Complications collection. This reference is distinguished by its perpetual calendar mechanism, which automatically adjusts for the varying lengths of months and leap years, requiring manual correction only once every century. It represents a classic interpretation of a highly functional complication, presented in a traditional round case design. The 5136 was offered with a bracelet, which provided a distinct wearing experience compared to strap-only perpetual calendar models. This reference was discontinued, making it a point of interest for collectors seeking specific configurations from Patek Philippe's past catalog.
This particular reference is known to have been produced in white gold, as indicated by the 'G' suffix in 5136G. It features a self-winding mechanical movement, visible through a sapphire crystal case back. The case diameter is 37mm, a size that balances wrist presence with wearability. The watch is fitted with a sapphire crystal on the front, protecting the dial. The perpetual calendar displays typically include day, date, month, leap year cycle, and moon phases, powered by a caliber known for its reliability and precision.
For collectors, the 5136G offers a combination of a perpetual calendar complication and a gold bracelet, a less common pairing in Patek Philippe's perpetual calendar offerings. Its discontinuation adds to its appeal for those who appreciate specific historical references and configurations. The watch appeals to individuals who prioritize a blend of technical sophistication and a refined aesthetic, with the added comfort and presence of a full gold bracelet. It stands as an example of Patek Philippe's enduring commitment to traditional watchmaking and complicated mechanisms.
....as personal taste is such a big criteria here. If i gave you my view, how would that help? I know my personal taste would push me in different directions. First, i am not a fan of the 5940 case style...so that would immediately push me towards the other two. Then....well...you know what i am going to say next...so that would push me towards the 5940 and 5136. But then.....i would like the variety of different complications...so back to 5136 and 5170 again I REALLY do like the 5136 and think
The Vantage is living on borrowed time I am afraid, especially with a new model coming out later this year. Still it has been wonderful owning it. I really do appreciate your feedback even though our tastes may be somewhat different as I respect that you are somewhat an authority compared to me. Will drop by at the Salon again tomorrow to have another 'test drive'!
i am definitely not an authority at all....i just know what pleases me...and ,i guess, what doesn't. I enjoy delving deep into a watch for sure....but a long long way from an authority. Genuinely...i find the 5136G really appealing as I can see myself with it..i can visulaise it. I would also add that the inclusion of 5136 into one of your two allows a lot of flexibility. Lets brush aside the diamond issue....the 5170P would for me be a more formal watch. I don't think it lends itself to a pair
but I do not own a pair of jeans! But I see your rationale with the 5136G. Pity you do not like the 5940G which I personally feel exudes a certain aura, a certain elegance. But if you do not like the shape, then little can change that. Thanks again.
I would say go for the diamonds. I\'m not a diamond guy, and I wear jeans a lot, and I\'d go for the 5136 if I was in your predicament. So therefore, let\'s entertain the thought of the opposite being a good idea! I think Baron hit the nail on the head, it\'s about visualisation. What can you see yourself with? I inadvertently used this method 2 days ago and passed on a watch. I don\'t regret it. Great watch, didn\'t suit me in my minds eye. However I agree, this is a good problem to have! enjoy
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