Montblanc Collective Horology 1858 Minerva Monopusher Blue Arrow
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Montblanc Collective Horology 1858 Minerva Monopusher Blue Arrow

By amanico · Oct 5, 2023 · 38 replies
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Amanico, a respected voice in the WatchProSite community, offers an incisive first look at the Montblanc × Collective Horology 1858 Minerva Monopusher Chronograph “Blue Arrow.” His review critically examines the design choices, comparing it to its 'Red Arrow' predecessor and questioning specific aesthetic and pricing decisions. This article distills community reactions to Montblanc's latest limited edition, providing a comprehensive perspective on its reception among discerning collectors.



Montlblanc just unveiled a new version of the 1858 Red Arrow, issued in 2022, which I reviewed here. 

www.watchprosite.com

This year, Montblanc issued a small series of 1858 Minerva mono pusher with a blue arrow this time for an US retailer " Collectiv Horology. Same steel case proportions ( 42 mm / circa 13 mm high ), same bezel, same movement, of course... The only thing which changes is the dial and the use of the good old Minerva logo at 6 o' clock, plus the two sub dials in a creamy color, like if Time offered them patina. 


I am not sure of the patina of the subdials, truth to be told. 

And there is something else I quite regret... The fact that the dial is not enameled, but lacquered. This version is 10% more expensive than the " Red Arrow ". It could be 10% more for an enamel dial, it would be better. 






And as we are at it... Why not a tad smaller case? 40 mm would be perfect. 

The superb movement, Cal 13.21 would be less lost! 



And well, 33 pieces... That doesn't make sense. 

Now, the biggest problem I have is the patina of the two subdials. 

What do you think? 

Best,

Nicolas

About the Montblanc 1858 Collection Ref. 1858

The Rolex Bubble Back, reference 1858, represents an early example of Rolex's self-winding waterproof wristwatches. This reference is part of the broader Bubble Back family, characterized by its distinctive domed case back designed to accommodate the thicker automatic movement of the era. It showcases Rolex's foundational efforts in developing robust and reliable automatic timepieces for everyday wear, laying groundwork for future Oyster Perpetual models.

This particular reference features an 18k white gold case, measuring 38mm in diameter. It is fitted with a sapphire crystal, protecting a silver dial. The watch is powered by an automatic movement, specifically the Boucheron 1858 caliber, offering a power reserve of 42 hours. The fixed bezel and leather strap complete the watch's classic presentation.

For collectors, the reference 1858 holds interest as an early and relatively rare iteration within the Bubble Back series, especially in white gold. Its larger case size for the period also makes it appealing to modern tastes. The presence of a date complication adds to its functionality, distinguishing it from simpler time-only Bubble Back models and highlighting Rolex's early integration of practical features.

Specifications

Caliber
Boucheron 1858
Case
18k white gold
Diameter
38mm
Dial
Silver
Crystal
Sapphire

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Champthekid
Oct 5, 2023

I’m not crazy about the dial color scheme. That said, readability looks very good.

LK
LK
Oct 5, 2023

I found a model with yellow subdial on a popular auction site, not sure whether it can be shared here. If interested, Google minerva n468. No idea whether it is correct or whether other models exist. Maybe, some Minerva expert can clarify.

TE
TeutonicCarFan
Oct 5, 2023

I don't like the color scheme. In addition, I agree on size... why not 40mm? The "ring" around the movement that says P5 and fait a villeret is unnecessary. Reduce the size of the case by that amount and you should be spot on. I do like that strap, very cool for steel piece with sport vibes. I like the release button, too.

CH
Champthekid
Oct 5, 2023

not working for me. Im in agreement with you on the sub dial color 👍

CH
Chronometer (aka yacomino)
Oct 5, 2023

Personally I would have made the minutes and hour hands darker for this white dial…

JT
Jtl
Oct 5, 2023

1. Solid black numeric markers is hard to blend in a pastel -colored dial. 2. White gold fluted bezel has lost its charm against a light-colored dial. 3. Agreed that the movement is a tad small for the case but both the red arrow and the unveiled secret have more texts engraved surrounding the movement that visually more pleasing than just P05.

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