Breguet Classique Complications: Discussion

Glenn_2004 · 2022-07-22T12:39:28Z

Explore the debate on Breguet's Caliber 777Q finishing. Glenn_2004 questions the disappearance of interior angles, sparking a discussion on brand transparency and evolving watchmaking standards.

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Glenn_2004's original post sparked a vital discussion among collectors regarding the finishing of Breguet's Caliber 777Q. His observation about the potential disappearance of interior angles in the movement, based on official Breguet website films, highlights a critical concern for enthusiasts who value traditional watchmaking details. This thread explores whether such subtle changes reflect a shift in manufacturing priorities and what it means for the discerning collector.

Friends,

To me, like to many others, the Breguet Caliber 777Q was mostly appealing as one of the last "basic" movement with interior angles. See the first pic of cal 777Q, which is old.

However, I have just looked at the film available on Breguet website and it seems that, in the current version of the 777Q, the interior angles are gone !

I find this so sad. They really don't care at all about the very details that were the core and the heart of watchmaking.

Key Points from the Discussion

A recently purchased Breguet 5177bb from last year still featured intact interior angles on its Caliber 777Q, suggesting the change might not be universal or recent for all production.
The discrepancy between official brand visuals and actual product details is a significant concern, as it undermines trust and makes informed purchasing difficult for collectors.
It's plausible that Breguet could have recently altered its production process for the Caliber 777Q, even if older stock still features the traditional finishing. The visual evidence from the film, showing rounded-off interior angles with sharp CNC lines, supports this possibility.
The perceived decline in finishing quality, such as the removal of interior angles, is a concerning trend across the industry, forcing buyers to be more vigilant about the true value and craftsmanship they receive for their investment.
The lack of transparency regarding subtle manufacturing changes, like the presence or absence of interior angles, makes it challenging for customers to ascertain the exact specifications of a watch without physical inspection prior to purchase.
Many major watch brands may be reducing the consistent application of interior angles, a detail now more reliably found among independent watchmakers, as they perceive that the broader market is less aware of its significance.

The Discussion

andrea~

Jul 22, 2022

Nowadays the only brands which offer interior angles consistently are the independents. Big brands do this because they know that most people are not aware of their importance.

Jul 22, 2022

Wow, on the metal plate surrounding the balance spring, are rough edges on the 2nd pic. Is that what you saw?

piccolochimico (aka dsgalaxy1)

Jul 22, 2022

CNCs work better with no inner angles 🙊🙉🙈

enjoythemusic

Jul 22, 2022

It is disheartening when brands seek profits over 'proper' artistic expression.

Spangles - Dr. Tabby

Jul 22, 2022

I bought a 5177bb with blue enamel dial last year and the angles are intact. This movement has been made since early 2000s, they are not changing the production process now. Here's another example of crying over nothing: www.watchprosite.com

Fastwong

Jul 22, 2022

It really is quickly becoming true that "they don't make them like they used to." Little changes like this annoy me to no end since there's no easy way for customers to know what exactly they are getting without inspecting the exact example of the watch prior to purchase.

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