I don't think you can go wrong with a VC but.....

Jul 09, 2017,13:31 PM
 

....I think the hands and hour markers blend in too much with the color of the dial which could make telling time somewhat difficult -- this would especially be true if you are in a dark environment (I don't think the markers are lumin) -- but that may just be the way the photo was taken.  I like the the bi-retrograde features -- these mechanisms are fun to watch (excuse the pun) in my opinion.  I don't think you can go wrong with a VC, but as another commenter noted ("vitalsigns" I think), you sound like you have doubts.   My position is if you feel you have doubts about a particular watch (it doesn't matter if it's a $150 or $15,000 piece), if you hesitate about it and need to get input from others, I would say go with your initial gut feeling and pass on this one.  I have not done a lot of research on this particular piece, so unless it a very limited edition or bears some other notable provenance or for some reason has sentimental value to you, and the price is right, then I think you, as a watch enthusiast, should add it as part of your collection - you can never have too many VC's.  If you plan on wearing this piece on a regular basis, only you can decide if the timepiece is for you.  As I said, I don't think you can go wrong with a VC, but it's YOU who has to live with it.  From the photo, it looks a little large on your wrist -- not necessarily a bad thing -- I have very thin wrists, but I generally buy pieces that are on the larger size because (a) I have somewhat poor vision so larger watches are easier for me to read (b) I like the feel of something substantial on my wrist (c) it catches the eye and other watch enthusiasts will definitely notice it.  These are all very subjective issues.  All of that aside, I love VC as a brand and would personally seriously consider the purchase if it were offered to me (especially on the generous sales terms that your friend is offering you).  I would also find out more about why your friend does not like it after purchase -- will you have the same "buyer's remorse?"  The reasons your friend may not like it may be reasons why you DO like it.  "Vitalsigns" also mentioned another important consideration -- undeniable passion is key.  I collect watches that I would enjoy and love looking at throughout the day -- if there's no passion in what I see on my wrist, then why did I buy it?  Good luck on your decision making!


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What do you all think?

 
 By: Ray8080 : July 9th, 2017-06:22
A very good friend of mine got this in auction, in excellent condition with full set. At first glance he fell in love with this watch. However, the more he looked at it the more dislike he felt. He knows I am collecting watches so he is looking to pass it...  

I quite like it.

 
 By: zabreg1 Mr White : July 9th, 2017-06:47
Unusual dial, but fun to look at.

Is that your wrist in the photo?

 
 By: vitalsigns : July 9th, 2017-06:51
Personally, I find the watch too big, and with this grey dial perhaps a bit too boring. Sounds like you have doubts, so my suggestion is to pass. I need undeniable passion to justify a purchase; otherwise, why buy? Cheers, John

Yes, it is on my wrist.

 
 By: Ray8080 : July 9th, 2017-07:38
One major point I am missing. We are very good friends and I can actually pay him any time, but will have to pay eventually of course...

So you're ok for the VC 47245 😉

 
 By: Alkiro1 : July 9th, 2017-07:42
Best wishes Alkiro

My God, you are the source of all knowledge!

 
 By: Poky : July 9th, 2017-07:49
I didn't know that reference so I had to check it on the WWW. Instead of weekday, that should be a small second. I am not that keen on the Roman numerals either. I gather VC allows customisation of a watch, now that is a tempting thought.

You're nice but I just knew these both retrograde models 😉

 
 By: Alkiro1 : July 9th, 2017-08:05
More than the Roman numerals, I'm more troubled by the dots between them. A little bit dated for me in this context. For the same amount of money, I would prefer to buy the jump hour reference 43040 instead. Best wishes Alkiro

Yours is 86020. The simple retrograde is 47245

 
 By: Alkiro1 : July 9th, 2017-08:18
Best wishes Alkiro

Thanks Alkiro [nt]

 
 By: Ray8080 : July 9th, 2017-08:34

My pleasure

 
 By: Alkiro1 : July 9th, 2017-08:40
Best wishes Alkiro

I do like retrograde watches.

 
 By: Freccero : July 9th, 2017-08:20
I think that VC is one of the few brands, which offers retrograde watches, as far as I know. I do love the dial and it looks like the classic dress watch. However, the retrograde adds something special that you won't certainly find in many other timepiece... 

Dont like it

 
 By: artp10861 : July 9th, 2017-09:30
So many other beautiful dials to be had. When i 1st saw it i disliked it and looking at it today I still feel the same. Gl

Spacing

 
 By: Alle : July 9th, 2017-09:41
I admire the retrograde function of this watch but the spacing between the individual letter forms is off-putting to me (WEDNESDAY and FRIDAY in particular). The THU short-hand seems like a bad idea. I would have much preferred to see the days of the week... 

I don't think you can go wrong with a VC but.....

 
 By: Paul : July 9th, 2017-13:31
....I think the hands and hour markers blend in too much with the color of the dial which could make telling time somewhat difficult -- this would especially be true if you are in a dark environment (I don't think the markers are lumin) -- but that may ju... 

It. Is all about weather you like it on your wrist.

 
 By: JerryW : July 9th, 2017-20:17
I think it is a cool model, big fan of retrogrades. Almost bought the PT LE several years ago but had a few others with a higher place on my want list.