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Help for a newbie -- Rose Gold VC
Dear friends, I am new to VCs. I have always wanted to add a VC to my collection and came across this beautiful Rose Gold piece which I was told is a Patrimony Grand Taille. I have bough one piece from this seller before (Patek; I had it authenticated subsequently). It seems the real deal but I just wanted to get your sagely views on the piece as I am unfamiliar with VCs; its quality/worth etc. I have posted the relevant pics with the movement etc. One of my concerns is the unsigned crown but I have seen image of other VCs like this. I am being offered it for around GBP 3000. The details are: Serial No: 366500. Ref 6317. Cal 1001 (which I understand is an excellent movement). I look forward to your views. With many thanks. Stevie
Help for a newbie -- Rose Gold VC
Dear friends, I am new to VCs. I have always wanted to add a VC to my collection and came across this beautiful Rose Gold piece which I was told is a Patrimony Grand Taille. I have bough one piece from this seller before (Patek; I had it authenticated sub...
V&C
I have owned a number of vintage V&C over many years, though have never focussed on ultra-thin models. I do not believe that the seller's characterization of the model is correct. He is referring to a much more contemporary model line than that of the...
Vintage Vacheron & Constantin, Ref 6317, Cal. 1001
This Reference 6317, was produced around 1957. Movement Number 553...??? (should be completed) Movement 1001 for non US sale (+) Diameter 20,80 mm (9''') Height 2,94 mm (is flat, not extra flat (is 1,64 mm)) Without shock protection (early variant of this...
Poinçon de Genève & movement number
-1 Poinçon de Genève (usually on two positions) -2 Movement number -A valuation is usually based on covetousness (attraction) and availability, between seller and buyer. It's always good to question what you get e.g. a watch w/wo flaws, w/wo a gold buckle...
check and compare facts
First after collecting as may facts as possible, you should compare those facts to other available samples carefully. Sources could be auction houses, offers for sale available in the internet, different forums - there are some V&C dedicated ones. Don...
to compare the cal. 1001, K1001, K1001/1, K1001/2 movements...
In my opinion, if you recognise the differences between the movements, it has actual little influence on the valuation of your V&C sample, because your ref. 6317 has almost certainly not been produced with different cal. 1001 movement variants. All th...
Very useful posts!
Thank you, Timeset, for your very informative and well-illustrated posts about what to look for when purchasing a vintage VC. I just acquired a circa1959 Patrimony Ref. 4961 (I believe) with caliber K1003 (not -1 or -2), and your recent posts are very hel...
congratulations for your ref. 4961 cal. K1003 decision,
the development and introduction of the K1003 movement was the latest technology step in miniaturisation at this time, a quantum leap forward in movement design. But don't forget to check for further background info, on authentification please also refer ...
Thanks again, timeset!
For your very helpful web links, and the listing of hard copy reference works. I've got a project now! I discovered I made an error in referring to the 1003 calibre as "K1003." It's really just plain old "1003," no Kif aspect at all. I didn't want to high...
cross check the dial facts for authentification
I'm going to look at the dials by starting in the lower row with the white/silver looking ref. 6179 which is communicated by V&C itself for a sample from 1957. If you would like to compare please look at the V&C timeline here: find that sample di...
cross check the dial facts for authentification (2)
I started in the lower row with the middle white/silver ref. 6179 dial and compared it with the further two ref. 6179 dials on the right side. The script is consistent, so it seems to be an authentic sample script print for the 'Vacheron & Constantin' of ...
cross check the dial facts for authentification (2 - latest version)
I started in the lower row with the middle white/silver ref. 6179 dial and compared it with the further two ref. 6179 dials on the right side. The script is consistent, so it seems to be an authentic sample script print for the 'Vacheron & Constantin'...
the only question to answer easily is...
that there are most probably no simple answers. And that is true for almost all topics discussed nowadays , no simple answers in a more and more complex world. Always stay with the simple facts. Maybe the missing link? Finally I dig out a Vacheron ref. 64...
