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Dec 12, 2023,04:21 AM
 

I used to have my name with a certain boutique but the sales is more associated with rap stars, sports person…was offered the first gen Code which I declined and heard nothing for years.

Last year, I visited local west coast boutique and registered my interest because a friend referred me. The sales rep must have other priorities and heard nothing from them for a year, even after I asked for the new steel Code chronograph…

I wrote them an email cc the mgr and bid goodbye. The mgr did call me and asked that I visit them again to register my interest for the pieces I like…but I did not want to entertain such nonsense again.

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Why Patek? I can think of one reason…

 
By: Clueless_Collector : December 11th, 2023-23:09
Wearable grand complications, elegant and refinement….so actually 3 reasons 😁 I have tried other PCCs but none can compete with Patek, just yet. Still in honeymoon. ...  

Have you had a chance to compare with an AP perpetual?

 
By: ArmisT : December 12th, 2023-02:36
I feel Patek easily wins against modern AP perpetuals for the reasons you like your PCC. But I wonder about certain historical AP perpetuals…those were really something special. I do wonder how they measure up head to head.🤔

No and probably never will…

 
By: Clueless_Collector : December 12th, 2023-02:51
AP doesn’t feel I’m worthy of their watches and they can go kiss someone else’s A** I will not give my money to them 👎🏻 It might sound funny but if I will to own an AP, I will buy them at deep discounts from grey only, no BS.

Admittedly, I know many people have had bad experiences with certain boutiques during the Covid craze…

 
By: ArmisT : December 12th, 2023-03:24
which isn’t to make excuses. But I’d bet if you approached them now or coming months, the experience would be better, especially at an AP House from what I hear. Still, you are correct that given the normalization trend, you would be able to get exactly w... 

Thank you for your response…

 
By: Clueless_Collector : December 12th, 2023-04:21
I used to have my name with a certain boutique but the sales is more associated with rap stars, sports person…was offered the first gen Code which I declined and heard nothing for years. Last year, I visited local west coast boutique and registered my int... 

Before I got this, I was also thinking about the 5270R…it was on my list of 5270s to choose,

 
By: Clueless_Collector : December 12th, 2023-05:02
I thought that a grand complication should look grand, no need to hide like a white metal and I like RG too….too bad it was sold before I could get to it. Any version of the 5270 is nice, imo. Thank you and I hope your get yours some day!

Sorry Boss, you are clearly on a different league….

 
By: Clueless_Collector : December 12th, 2023-06:12
For the rest of us peasants, this is the top grand complication, haha. I don’t need a minute repeater or tourbillon, no change since many years ago, as I wrote in my POTM self intro, along with few other members, here on WPS 😬

Does it have to be a minute repeater or can another acoustical comp. do the trick?

 
By: quattro_spirit : December 13th, 2023-08:04
The definition I’ve found on internet says (for what it’s worth: once again, I’m really ignorant about this topic): chrono comp. + astronomical comp. (but not necessarily a perp. cal.: it mentions a simple calendar or a moonphase) + acoustical comp. (incl... 

I had this discussion with JLC when they released the Master Grande Tradition Grande Complication, and they agreed that the term Grande Complication was a bit excessive...

 
By: amanico : December 13th, 2023-08:19
We had private emails about that for the fun of it. And we fell on a classic definition which was at least a chrono, a perpetual calendar and a minute repeater. Some added a tourbillon.

Honestly i do wear it…

 
By: Watches_passion : December 12th, 2023-19:17
But i dont bother to change the date/month… this is a watch where the dial makes you forget the rest of the details😂

The 5270 is a fantastic watch 👍🏼

 
By: Watchlover42 : December 12th, 2023-11:03
Even when I have to admit that I'm not a fan of the chin. But hey, there are variants of 5270s out there for almost every individual taste. The 5270G-001 was my choice. Was happy that this is a less attractive version, so I could afford it 😉 ...  

Absolutely there is a lot of variants for everyone....

 
By: Clueless_Collector : December 12th, 2023-18:49
Always 2 sides on a coin, the 5970 only has 5 variants, and you might see someone with same dial, but highly unlikely since only rumored to be only 2800 pcs total production. I don't mind a 5270 and I think mine may be less attractive than your -001, so I... 

For me the Patek PCC is the ultimate. Your 5207 clearly has some DNA from the 1518 which was the first serially introduced PCC of any manufacturer.

 
By: patekova : December 12th, 2023-14:32
It was introduced over 80 years ago in 1941. Phillips NY watch auction this past weekend by coincidence sold one or more variations of each of the PCCs - 1518, 2499, 3970, 5020, 5970 and 5207. Plus 5004 and 5204. Beautifully photographed and with very wel...