Does this policy apply to the white dial also? [nt]

Feb 24, 2018,07:32 AM
 

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Patek 5711A is now an allocation watch

 
 By: jonrus : February 24th, 2018-03:18
AD confirmed that it is now an allocation model, with approximately one watch every 6 months delivery.

Yep.

 
 By: russell996 : February 24th, 2018-03:35
I assume anyone with a deposit paid will now get this back.

What does that mean exactly?

 
 By: Thomahof : February 24th, 2018-03:48
Allocating to ADs or end buyers?

+1 yes, what does this mean? [nt]

 
 By: KamalRostov : February 24th, 2018-04:30

Really

 
 By: Costa (aka Connie) : February 24th, 2018-04:30
So must the customer pay in full then they get the allocation? Does this mean you must pay more than retail? Lots of questions sorry.

Allocation to the AD

 
 By: jonrus : February 24th, 2018-05:03
Approximately 2 per year. How the AD allocate the watch I’m not sure. End users will really be based upon how well the AD knows the customer.

Different watch, but when I bought my 5726A last October there were 19 people on the list behind me.

 
 By: BMR : February 24th, 2018-07:23
Same situation in that people were offering more to try to jump up the list. I can only imagine the situation for the 5711A is even tighter.

How does this differ to the past system? My AD

 
 By: Patekphilippecollector : February 24th, 2018-09:43
Has always only received 4 of the 5711 per annum.

My understanding of an allocation watch

 
 By: sham1 : February 24th, 2018-10:15
is that the watch is allocated to 'good' customers as decided by Patek (not the AD). In the UK for example, this would be Rhone Products who distributes to all the ADs. The 5131 series falls into this category too. Previously, one would put his name down ... 

Not sure about the UK

 
 By: jonrus : February 24th, 2018-11:40
Several US AD’s have been saying the same thing. Perhaps with the price hike and tighter supply, it’s no longer business as usual for this model. Just my humble opinion. Perhaps you should ask your AD and let us know.

Was there a recent price hike in the US?

 
 By: sham1 : February 24th, 2018-12:06
The UK had theirs in September last year. I will have my customary monthly chat with my UK AD in 10 days time and will definitely touch on this issue. No disrespect meant to the 5711/1A but I wish Patek produced more of these instead of making it an 'allo... 

I think Rhone is by far more strict than the rest

 
 By: Patekphilippecollector : February 24th, 2018-22:12
Of the world which I think is a good thing. At least they know the end user of the watch and the purpose. From keeping the papers for 2 years, to pre approval to destroying the travel box. Sacrilege to all except those than genuinely buy watches to buy, w... 

I agree!

 
 By: sham1 : February 24th, 2018-22:21
Rhone is arguably more strict or should I rephrase that more fair when it comes to allocation. I think Patek HQ should try to ensure that all its distributors adopt a similar ethos or else consider removing their distributorship. I know at least one count... 

Perhaps call your AD and ask for a 5711

 
 By: jonrus : February 24th, 2018-12:50
See what your AD says

And as of March 1st...

 
 By: watchme : February 24th, 2018-12:14
the new US Retail will be $29,800 -Dean

After 9 months of waiting

 
 By: beejo : February 25th, 2018-04:20
I asked the salon,If they can let me know my number on the list,The answer was incredibly funny “Number 305”.with two watches every year I think I might be able to get mine after not a lot more than 150 years😄 Best, Ahmed

I find it hard to believe that they actually have 300

 
 By: Patekphilippecollector : February 25th, 2018-04:37
on a list. They normally don't take names after a certain number.....my gut says Salons will also get far more than 2 a year....

I agree with you

 
 By: jonrus : February 25th, 2018-05:01
The Salons are different than AD’s. I only spoke with my US AD. Furthermore, the allocation are also dependent on how the AD rankings within. I’m sure some get more than others based on volume.

I canceled my order anyways.

 
 By: beejo : February 25th, 2018-06:58
Best, Ahmed

That’s what the salon manager told me !

 
 By: beejo : February 25th, 2018-07:00
I wasn’t keen to wait anyways,So I asked her to remove my name. Best, Ahmed

That will make no 306 happy....he has just moved

 
 By: Patekphilippecollector : February 25th, 2018-07:50
To 305 😂 cheers

All this hoopla

 
 By: watch-er : February 25th, 2018-08:47
is ultimately going to have the effect of chilling demand for the 5711. We already hear people saying they are dropping off the lists or just disgusted they cannot even get on a list. People have said they have moved on with the price increase. The used p... 

I thought that this was the intention of Patek

 
 By: jonrus : February 25th, 2018-12:41
To lower the demand of the 5711. I guess it’s working, if customers are backing out.