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Very well put, Sergio. Like in the very first years, people bought Panerai watches because they were only a few to like them.
Feb 01, 2017,22:40 PM
The rest of the history, we very well know it...
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SIHH 2017: Panerai PAM 687. Some pictures and thoughts.
By: amanico : February 1st, 2017-03:17
Let's be clear, I don't " buy " the official explanation behind the watch, the fact that it has been introduced by the Italian Navy as a product which might be of interest for them. I don't have a verified explanation, but I always believed that the first...
I knew it would be a watch for you, Amigo Abel.
By: amanico : February 1st, 2017-05:15
I have to take an appointment with the Paris Boutique to see the 662 and this one side by side. I will keep you updated. As for the fact that it may or may not have existed, I agree with you. It is looking damn nice! Un abrazo. Nicolas
Thanks a lot my dear Nicolas!! I guess the 662 is a different...
By: Subexplorer : February 1st, 2017-06:30
... watch, with a fantastic dial color and its only drawback is not having a sandwich dial. In this department the 662 loses against this new model 687. Anyway, I love my 662 and its 1940 case sans crown guard. Best option is... as always... to go for Bot...
Great read!
By: joeyza : February 1st, 2017-07:13
Thanks for putting this together along with the history lesson. Very much enjoyed reading about the comparison of today's iteration vs the historical model. Cheers, Joe
True that's a great watch.
By: aris d : February 1st, 2017-07:45
Something unexpected given the dial color and the bezel. Many of us are now dreaming. Aris PS For your case, If you chose the 372, then the 587 is the better option (given the MM on dial and vintage hands). BUT you can chose the 673 for the 6152 (so you h...
Have you considered 690 instead of 662?
By: aris d : February 1st, 2017-09:18
The trio 673/690/687 would have been a killer. In such a case, you'll have many important elements of Panerai world. Aris
Well, several things to consider...
By: MichaelC : February 1st, 2017-08:16
I had just clicked on your Longines 7150 post before this one. Side by side, would you really choose the PAM? The Longines seems much more authentic to my eyes. The colors are a little different of course, but you have the better vintage look already. PAM...
Thank you Nicolas. I bought my first Panerai in 2001
By: MichaelC : February 1st, 2017-08:40
So definitely, this is a brand I enjoy and have watched evolve for some time now. I do not fault any company for making money... that is why they are likely in business in the first place. But the direction definitely changed some years ago, and patience ...
Easy choice !!!
By: Angelitojn : February 1st, 2017-09:00
For a Panerai's collector of the last two decades, the 662 and the 687 must be on the top of his desirable models. And I say 662 no 663, i would replace it in my PAMBox by 673. And the 687 no 685 because first option is for "crazy" PAMLovers (or Paneristi...
Ok ok totally agree. Vena andaluza !!!
By: Angelitojn : February 1st, 2017-10:03
This year Panerai showed last January the best new collection in Richemont Era. Historic models: PAM 687 (Brown Srcewed), PAM 720 (3646 type C ) and 721 (Anonymus Dial, 3646 Type D ), PAM 716 NewOld MN) and neo-classic PAM671 (BLONZO) Modern Collection: P...
You wrote...pam 36-40- 217 etc...
By: sergio : February 2nd, 2017-05:52
as desirable..after the 202A/201A and 304..over the "two last decades". The Pre-As, were produced in those 2 decades too
The first 3646 Brevettato...
By: sergio : February 2nd, 2017-05:25
was PRODUCED by Panerai in 1943. After that it has gone trough some...tweaking...over subseqeunt years Still, there's no record of the number of pieces produced.
when it was announced in November 2016
By: ocwatching : February 1st, 2017-10:08
I put my name down for one...its pretty unique and doubt it will be released again by Panerai (but not holding breath) your live photos are less brown than the other on the internet I have seen.. love it that its a sandwich dial...versus the 662...I still...
Great report Nicolas!
By: Makilla : February 1st, 2017-12:23
i used to be a huge Panerai fan with well over 35-40 pieces In my collection but that number decreased dramatically throughout the years because they kept on producing more of the same and always promising us collectors that it's a one shot edition. No mo...
Excellent points, Laurent. There are two things which are not necessarily linked. Nice and collectible.
By: amanico : February 1st, 2017-12:32
Since 2005 and the OOR, I don't believe any Panerai watch is collectible anymore. Now, some are very nice, still. The PAM 372, the 662, the 587, this one, the 687. And a few others. I think we should consider them for what they are, nice ( or not, dependi...
Pleasure is all mine Nicolas :)
By: Makilla : February 1st, 2017-13:52
Yeah I agree. If the point is just to have them for what they look like then you should be ok Cheers to that my friend
I agree with you only...50%
By: sergio : February 1st, 2017-18:21
the remaining 50%, in my opinions, boils down to: collecting vs speculating. How can one have the..expectation..that an object you buy today, goes through the roof, both in desirability and value, in the space of a couple of years??? VanGogh died dirt poo...
Absolutely agree Sergio! Well put!! I feel true collectors are ...
By: Subexplorer : February 2nd, 2017-12:31
... a romantic breed and a minority nowadays. I had never thought about "a good business" when buying my watches. I have done it by heart and passion, and I wish I will be able to continue enjoying this activity of collecting and wearing watches in that w...
30M Water Resistance? I'm out.
By: patrick_y : February 2nd, 2017-04:32
1000 pieces? Not exclusive enough. Dial may be too faux patina, overdone. I'd go for the 685's black dial. But the 30M water resistance was really an eye opener. And this fact torpedoed my thoughts of owning this watch. Thank you for pointing this out! No...
If, for the FIRENZE/2015, you refer to the 604....
By: sergio : February 2nd, 2017-05:37
I've seen it for sale on the web. If you can't get hold of one of them, have a look at the 672 FIRENZE, which you can find in the Panerai official website, in the Special Boutique's Edition of the San Giovanni Boutique.
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By: amanico : February 2nd, 2017-09:18
I've lived in Singapore, for some 20 years.
By: sergio : February 2nd, 2017-12:18
aircon+swimming pool are more important than house/apartment. Since I bought it, my 249 and I, never..ever....EVER had a problem, nor any other Panerai I've used on the pool ...
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By: amanico : February 4th, 2017-11:12
Gr8 points Nico...
By: mahesh : February 2nd, 2017-13:09
Thanks for sharing. Except for the radiomir case and the crown rest isn\'t my liking... I surely hate the fact that a 30m water resistance is futile for a brand like Panerai ! Best, mahesh.,
Great post!
By: pessoa00 : February 3rd, 2017-08:10
I have this one ordered since 1st rumours came out and can't wait to see it live! My only concern is that the dial might be too orange. How did you feel after seeing it live, compared to oficial pictures? Thank you very much António
Thanks!! This is my favourite release this year
By: pessoa00 : February 3rd, 2017-09:00
I've been away from the brand for the past few years. The last Panerai I bought was the 587 in the end of 2014 and haven't been excited by any release ever since. This year, if funds allowed I would get at least 4 new Pams. Although I think it was one of ...