Lord_Arran
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To the best of my knowledge the claim was not for the most complicated series watch of the
Apr 22, 2007,23:30 PM
world, but THE MOST COMPLICATED WRIST WATCH OF THE WORLD, period.
Hence, even if there is only one (and maybe particularly because there is only one) the watch I have commissioned over 15 years is and at present remains the most complicated wrist watch of the world ever made, unsurpassed.
VC has changed their statement to "the most complicated wrist watch made in a series of...pieces" and I could heartily agree for their's a great achievement with their Tour de l'Ile and I told them so.
Let us be quite clear: I admire JLC very much and they build great watches of outstanding quality. And the watch we discuss about is certainly a great exploit and I congratulate them for achieving it.
But every watch maker will tell you that a watch with a Grand Sonnerie is really the greatest achievement and inside the JLC there is no Grand Sonnerie to the best of my knowledge and not even a chronograph.
May I just state what the Piguet/Muller/Gerber watch contains?
Hours, minutes, seconds,
Grand and Petite Sonnerie
Minute repeater
Perpetual Calendar with retrograde months indication
Monthly equation indication
24 hours indication
4 years indication
Moon phases
Thermometer
Split second chronograph with 60 minutes jumping counter and fly back
Power reserve for movement and chimes
2 spring houses
Smallest flying Tolurbillon of the world in a wrist watch
and all this in a watch not bigger than the IWC Leonardo da Vinci.
I add a picture of the publication in the Guinness Book of Records 2006:
Warm regards
Lord Arran
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It's Complicated
By: yesjb : April 22nd, 2007-12:17
Since there are no quotes or attributions to any specific individual, its impossible to ascertain, whether this claim comes directly from JLC, or from the fevered mind of a media person whose aim may not be to relate the exact facts but to create an impre...
What? You think a reporter got it wrong?
By: mkvc : April 22nd, 2007-16:27
Impossible! Seriously, it's pretty much an unknown event for a non-specialist reporter to get a technical matter right. I would be astonished if JLC had actually claimed that their watch was the most complicated in the world; more likely the reporter thou...
Just playing Devil's Advocate here, but...
By: Jos. : April 22nd, 2007-20:30
...has the FM/Piguet/Gerber watch ever been in regular production? The article you're quoting would still be a canard but IMHO there's some ground to only let regular production watches qualify for the title. Jos.
I certainly didn't want to detract from your watch...
By: Jos. : April 23rd, 2007-02:01
... which is an undisputable masterpiece, hasn't been equalled to date. And as I said, the article is a canard whichever way you look at this. And finally, I have to say that the position of most manufactures in matters like this is extremely hypocritical...
As written in the next missive. Open the link, read and scroll down>
By: Lord_Arran : April 23rd, 2007-06:29
and when you are down at the 1st page click the next topic until you reach page number 5. Everything is properly described the what the where the way and the how from beginning to the end. Thank you for your interest and warm regards Lord Arran
Well, Lord Arran,
By: HerrK : April 24th, 2007-11:04
to me it looks like it was you who started this thread accusing MJLC of pretending to have build the most complicated wristwatch in the world which instead would be your PMG. Until now you have neither proved that MJLC made such a claim nor that your PMG ...
this is absurd
By: ei8htohms : April 24th, 2007-15:52
Hello All, There is one point of contention in all of this, "Did JLC themselves claim that the Trytique is the most complicated watch in the world, or was that simply a journalist taking liberties with the information provided him?" Of this we are uncerta...
I don't like the definition of the Guiness book
By: origami : April 24th, 2007-23:29
Hello all, When I read the Guinness Book certificate, it says : "In term of the number of individual parts, the most complicated wristwatch [...]" So, this means that if I take a simple watch, and put inside it 1300 small parts (I would take small screws,...
Historical note
By: nickd : April 25th, 2007-03:23
In 1904, L.Leroy et Cie produced what was then the world's most complicated watch. The ebauche and the majority of the complications were actually built by Charles Piguet of Sentier (I don't know if he's related to the Louis Elysee Piguet who built the or...
Book suggestion...
By: nickd : April 25th, 2007-05:03
Lord Arran, As you speak French, you may find the book by Yves Droz et Joseph Florès on the Leroy ( Leroy 01 : La Montre la plus Compliquée du Monde ). It was originally published by the AFAHA, but I belive it's now out of print. You may be able to find i...