Thanks for this in-depth analysis of your thoughts on this watch!

Dec 24, 2023,06:44 AM
 

Even though I share some of your enthusiasm, I will personally not pull the trigger on this one, nor on the 1860, both of which I have tried on at W&W where they were presented to me by the late and great Jose Garcia. Let me explain precisely why.


1/ The XPS: there are 2 details which I personally don’t warm up to:


a) The dial color is very pink, a bit too much for my taste (it's really more pink than salmon), and, more importantly, this pink has black as a contrasting color: the iris pattern has black striations, the seconds subdial has a black track, the brand name is black and the minutes track and dots are black. And this contrast of pink and black isn’t to my personal taste. Moreover, the hands and indexes are filled with white luminova, and, for me, this mix of black and white on the dial lacks coherence. It’s the reason why I systematically prefer the versions of the Alpine Eagle with white brand name and minutes track and dots, and why I much prefer the version with flying tourbillon, where the elements of contrast to the blue dial are all white (not to mention the fact that the iris pattern is spreading from the tourbillon and not from the central pinion, which gives this specific dial a very unique dynamic).


b) The small second subdial interrupts the iris pattern and implies the removal of the VI index (which is replaced by a half index, whereas in the tourbillon version there’s no index at all). Some might be very happy with this, but I personally prefer the symmetry of the regular models with the four Roman numerals.


So, for me, the strengths of this watch are the thinness of the case and bezel and the 96.40 L micro rotor caliber. But I find the dial to be a (relative) weakness rather than a strength, given my personal taste. As for the price, I find it very reasonable, not in itself of course, but compared to the competition: a Royal Oak 15550st, which is 9.1mm thick (vs 8.2mm) , has no screw-down crown, an average no-Geneva seal caliber and only 50m of water resistance (vs 100m), retails at 27,300€ (vs 24,900€).


And I would just like to add that, owning a regular grey dial 41mm Alpine Eagle, I can testify that the polished center art of each link of the bracelet is a scratch magnet. But the good point is that, each link being removable, it's possible, despite the absence of a micro-adjustment, to find a perfect fit on the wrist (at least it was for my wrist). And the case being very well designed and quite slim (9.7mm), though thicker than the XPS of course, it sits really flat and nicely on the wrist, and doesn't wear as large as the 41mm would suggest.


2/ The 1860: here again, two points tend to bother me:


a) I found the dial color (which is very different from the Monte Rosa pink of the XPS, being much more copper-like than pink), to be very close to the color of my skin, almost as if I was looking at my wrist through the dial. And I wasn’t completely seduced by that impression: so, the only thing I can say is that this color isn’t what I’m personally looking for.


b) The 1860 has a steel case and this is a no-go for me for two reasons: first, I always prefer colored gold for a dress watch. I know it’s very personal, but white metals, be they gold, platinum or steel, just don’t speak to me as much as yellow or rose gold. I find them cold and distant, metallic, whereas yellow and rose gold have warmth. Secondly, setting aside this question of color, I think such a refined dress watch with a very delicate hand-guilloché dial deserves a precious metal case and not a steel one: so I personally prefer to wait for a gold version which might come someday in the future.


So, here are the little details which will personally keep me away from both the XPS and the 1860. But I still think that they are great and very tempting timepieces in their own way. And it’s very easy for me to understand why they are exactly what others are looking for or what they have been dreaming of!


Have a very nice Christmas Sunday, all of you! 











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Watches and Wonders 2023: A review on the Chopard Alpine Eagle 41 XPS.

 
 By: amanico : December 23rd, 2023-22:10
I am not a super fan of these so-called " luxury sports watches ", and, among them, the Nautilus or the Royal Oak, with a preference for the Royal Oak, though. Same for the Vacheron 222. My favorite, till now, was the Girard Perregaux Laureato. As for the...  

;) Thanks, mdg.

 
 By: amanico : December 23rd, 2023-22:37

Superb write up Nico!

 
 By: Aquaracer1 : December 23rd, 2023-22:46
Stunning dial, this is the star of the show for me, yes, better with no date. I never noticed the circle around the sub dial until you pointed it out . Better without in my option, but not a reason to skip all together. The price is steep, if I was to mov... 

This is a killer piece

 
 By: TeutonicCarFan : December 23rd, 2023-22:56
I definitely am close to pulling the trigger. For me, I am waiting/hoping for a micro adjustment on the clasp. It would drive me crazy otherwise. Also, I'm not too thrilled on adding another steel bracelet watch, I'd prefer something fun like Ti..and agre... 

Tried it on, very nice.

 
 By: Spangles - Dr. Tabby : December 23rd, 2023-23:05
I like the LUC 1860 salmon very much.

Solution: Get both...😂

 
 By: India Whiskey Charlie : December 23rd, 2023-23:30

😂

 
 By: hora12reborn : December 24th, 2023-06:44

:)))

 
 By: amanico : December 24th, 2023-07:12

I love your solutions. ;)

 
 By: amanico : December 24th, 2023-07:12

Excellent review, amigo!

 
 By: 1WatchMan : December 23rd, 2023-23:40

Gracias!

 
 By: amanico : December 24th, 2023-07:12

De nada!

 
 By: 1WatchMan : December 24th, 2023-08:06

;-)

 
 By: amanico : December 24th, 2023-11:19

Great review. I like everything about this piece except the 41 mm size.

 
 By: hoseachandra : December 24th, 2023-00:18
38-39 mm would suit many more wrist. Luckily, the 8 mm thinness help a lot. I agree that any sport integrated bracelet watch should have maximum thickness of 9.5 mm to be qualified as "true chic and luxury sport watch". Anything beyond 10 mm shows not eno... 

Another great review!

 
 By: KCLQMULKU : December 24th, 2023-00:25
When the AE was first released it did not attract my attention as much as other releases. But since the XPS and other limited variants I had since changed my mind, appreciate them much more, and find them to be remarkable pieces and unique in their own ri... 

Alot of Beautiful details, the dial finish, the side profile picture, wow, great pic of the crown and side case and the gorgeous movement

 
 By: SALMANPK : December 24th, 2023-00:57
Great Review. I can understand why this reference would tempt you so much. S

Merci, S.

 
 By: amanico : December 24th, 2023-11:20

What can I say! I agree with everything and I fell so hard in love with this one that…

 
 By: Chronometer (aka yacomino) : December 24th, 2023-01:02
It also made me fall in love with the AE collection in general! They are very comfortable!

I saw! ;)

 
 By: amanico : December 24th, 2023-11:20

:-)

 
 By: Chronometer (aka yacomino) : December 24th, 2023-12:51

:))))))))

 
 By: amanico : December 24th, 2023-16:44

And if I must confess, I am not done yet for 2023!

 
 By: Chronometer (aka yacomino) : December 24th, 2023-17:02

Naaaah??? Really???

 
 By: amanico : December 24th, 2023-22:11

Really! I know it’s almost shameful! Sometime too much is like not enough!

 
 By: Chronometer (aka yacomino) : December 24th, 2023-23:06
But hey, sometime when the opportunity strike you take it 😜

Come on, let's see that!

 
 By: amanico : December 24th, 2023-23:07

First need to receive it!

 
 By: Chronometer (aka yacomino) : December 24th, 2023-23:11
☺️

Something I was not expecting till 2024 but came early to my AD…

 
 By: Chronometer (aka yacomino) : December 25th, 2023-01:09
It’s a Chopard 😉

Aaaah, ok. One more!!!

 
 By: amanico : December 25th, 2023-07:18

perfection

 
 By: Gelato Monster : December 24th, 2023-01:05

Thanks, GM.

 
 By: amanico : December 24th, 2023-11:20

this one is very you my Vlad

 
 By: Gelato Monster : December 25th, 2023-07:45

Which one? :))))

 
 By: amanico : December 25th, 2023-07:55

This Alpine Eagle 41 XPS.

 
 By: Gelato Monster : December 25th, 2023-08:14

LOL! ;)

 
 By: amanico : December 25th, 2023-09:20

Great review, Nicolas.

 
 By: MichaelC : December 24th, 2023-02:05
I ordered through my AD and should be getting close. My only dislike is the bracelet aesthetic. I understand the design intent, but I don't like it. The polish, and the raised profile. I have what I think is a very solid idea to fix it. I need to make a s... 

+1 should be good :-)

 
 By: SALMANPK : December 24th, 2023-20:06

;-) ;)

 
 By: amanico : December 24th, 2023-21:52

Thanks for this excellent review, mon ami.

 
 By: MTR : December 24th, 2023-02:10
My personal opinion: this watch is a stunner and a big hit! The price doesn't shock me at all compared to what some competitors dare to charge for much less. Personally, the date windows on the sister models don't bother me that much because they are in t... 

Great write up Nicolas.

 
 By: agyzace : December 24th, 2023-04:13
What I am not thrilled about: 1. Numerals 2. Small seconda hand. Would prefer central seconds or no seconds at all. Dont get the small seconds approach for such piece

Bitten by the eagle😁

 
 By: hora12reborn : December 24th, 2023-06:32

or should I say caught by the 🦅

 
 By: hora12reborn : December 24th, 2023-06:33

Even better! :)

 
 By: amanico : December 24th, 2023-11:22

LOL!

 
 By: amanico : December 24th, 2023-11:22

Thanks for this in-depth analysis of your thoughts on this watch!

 
 By: quattro_spirit : December 24th, 2023-06:44
Even though I share some of your enthusiasm, I will personally not pull the trigger on this one, nor on the 1860, both of which I have tried on at W&W where they were presented to me by the late and great Jose Garcia. Let me explain precisely why. 1/ ...  

Great review!

 
 By: jlux : December 24th, 2023-13:54
These are the best pictures of that watch and dial that I have seen on the web !! I can understand why others love that watch so much; design language being however very subjective I have to admit that the AE does not really "speak" to me.

Thanks for your detailed review

 
 By: penfriend : December 24th, 2023-13:58
It resembles my feelings - it is 99% tempting but still not an immediate purchase for me. Non adjustable bracelet or clasp is for me the primary point at this price stage with this kind of bracelet - hey, it’s not a president! I cannot understand how a ma... 

Great objective review

 
 By: Derreck : December 24th, 2023-16:04
You made me realize many points which I would somehow miss on my own. Thanks for taking the time and share this with us!

Pleasure, Derreck.

 
 By: amanico : December 24th, 2023-21:45

I liked the alpine eagle from the start

 
 By: jaspermccrea : December 24th, 2023-17:30
... and ended up with the blue faced one. I handled the first ever XPS in the London boutique a few weeks ago, and it's definitely different to the regular one, but unlike you, I think some of the changes aren't entirely for the better. The loss of a mm o... 

Another impressive in-depth review, Nico!👏👏👏

 
 By: Mach : December 24th, 2023-19:43
I believe it goes without saying that I’m a huge fan of this spectacular piece. With no prior purchase history, I’m especially shocked that I was fortunate to obtain one, which I’m wearing today: 1. Just to add to your review, the dial can change dependin...  

One of the special pieces from 2023 👌

 
 By: holdemchamp1225 : December 30th, 2023-20:49

Superb post!

 
 By: patrick_y : March 13th, 2024-14:23
For a fella who is not a tremendous fan of Genta-esque, integrated bracelet, sports watches, you rather liked this watch! The killer here is the movement. This is a wonderful movement. There is so much inner beauty here. And the Chopard 96 movement is not... 

Allow me to be critical...

 
 By: patrick_y : March 13th, 2024-17:15
1. This dial. The eagle's iris. I still find it a little "strange." And I'm not crazy about it. It's also stamped. And I think the indices and hands are made of steel (not gold). 2. This bracelet is beautifully constructed, expecially from that side profi... 

Can't wait to try it on!

 
 By: patrick_y : March 14th, 2024-18:24
I really like this one! Looking forward to acquiring mine later this year!

You will love it.

 
 By: amanico : March 14th, 2024-22:19

I have Nautilus’ poor imitation

 
 By: loujo : March 18th, 2024-17:33
GP Laureato, and it picked up scratches like there is no tomorrow. So I wouldn’t really fault Chopard’s polished center links. But for some reason I feel the overall design is more industrial and less refined than RO or Nautilus. Again I am only talking a... 

more than three weeks....

 
 By: Peter : March 15th, 2024-19:36
...of wearing the alpine eagle XPS more or less continuously. and i still don't know completely how i feel about it. here are a few thoughts. the contrast of the pink dial and the white metal hands and indices (white gold?) is strikingly beautiful and giv...  

dial

 
 By: Peter : March 17th, 2024-18:31
the more i look at my AE XPS the more i get convinced that the watch gains a lot of its distinctive estethics from the height of the hour markers, which makes the dial really three dimensional .

and IMHO...

 
 By: Peter : March 20th, 2024-08:31
the more i wear the AE XPS the mire i appreciate the package.

Clearly, yes.

 
 By: amanico : March 20th, 2024-08:44

One of the best steel watches

 
 By: SCane : March 31st, 2024-22:10
It is almost perfect. There are basically 2 drawbacks: 1) central link that will eventually scratch; 2) 1mm too big in diameter. Don’t know how good the links bracelet are connected though.

Not yet

 
 By: SCane : April 1st, 2024-21:27
I was able to touch other alpine eagles. But I was disappointed with their movement finishing. Salmon one seems to have a great movement so this drawback is eliminated.