Unsung Genius - Tada-san's funbox last laugh

Sep 06, 2017,10:22 AM
 




Yes it’s childish.  I guess some of us never grow up.  Constantly looking for every opportunity to have her sideways. To tease out her tail and keep her balanced there on the cliff edge of orgasm. Or tweak her helm to step out learily and catch like nervous cold tyres out of the pits in the dawn mist of your daydream favourite scene from LeMans.   Looking for crossed up wiggles and giggles over brows or any kind of slip and slideways is addictive, devotional, obsessional - but always and preferably of opposite lockitude.  

In a sanitised world of political correctness, speed awareness courses and 20mph limits the choices that make up the ’86 stand out as both insanity and genius.  Deliberately choosing to limit the grip, is but one example.  More keen to catch the first flight out to Driftsville than a pre-65 swb 911, if you blow the dust of your Autocar collection you will find that the ’86 matches stride for stride the performance of the legendary original M3 and the 70s 2.4 911. This is no coincidence. For a modern production car the petrolhead details of having such a focused Chief Engineer like Tada-san are obvious.  The more you look the more you find.  The view from the seat evokes the 911 or 458 due to the view of the wings.  The headrests reverse to allow seat fit with helmets.  The NASCAResque tacho; and its careful orientation (change up in normal driving at 12 oclock out of your peripheral vision). There is extra thread on the bolts on the suspension strut top mounts to take an aftermarket brace.  The firewall is predrilled for gauge lines.  The ground clearance is the same as an Auris for real world spoiler kerb clearance.  A set of of four tyres fits in the boot with seats down (and a trolley jack).  The straight ahead driving position.  The height of the folded rear seat aperture allows a bicycle to go in without removing pedals; or two golf bags if you enjoy your walk ruined.  A 13” Macbook slips in the glovebox. The powersocket cover can double as a plug for the engine noise port in the cabin footwell.  The pedal weight and position for heel and toe is to die for. And the auto version could have been a dis-ah-ster, but Tada-san saved it by making for clutch lock up in manual mode so you can still throttle steer.

But you won’t read about these little bits of genius from most journalists’ coverage; most of whom couldn't discriminate between the sweetheart handling of the 86 versus the BRZ’s stretchy shopping trolley understeer, nor properly investigated the auto behaviour let alone touched on the subtleties above.

So, in a world of downsized turbo lag and misinformed greenwash I fear Tada-san’s Hachi-Roku will go down in history as the last hurrah of affordable driveability and involvement, with no-one noticing. 

Shame

Tadaphile




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Yet to spend some serious time with this one :)

 
 By: KMII : September 6th, 2017-11:40
But your ode to it is quite promising!
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ahh the hachi-roku....I was toying with the idea of getting this car (used) or the new rolex day date.

 
 By: kesharoo : September 6th, 2017-20:41
whichever it is, the car will be a manual one of course. Lets see....Have to test drive them and decide between the 86 or the BRZ.
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'86 all the way. :-) [nt]

 
 By: Velociphile - No longer in the building : September 7th, 2017-00:35
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A perfect concept, but with a few flaws...

 
 By: patrick_y : September 7th, 2017-14:49
When the Toyota 86 debuted, I applauded Toyota for bringing this to market. This is exactly what the industry needed. Then I drove one, a stock one, for nearly 1000 miles, 1500 kilometers, and I couldn't sing its praises anymore. Drove it in heavy Los Ang... 
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Interesting insight

 
 By: Velociphile - No longer in the building : September 8th, 2017-05:16
Not sure what bias ratio was chosen but this torsen is 'tight' in full lock turns. Also the rear brakes activate to control the 'slipping' wheel if needed when this happens on looser surfaces. This can feel clunky but is normal. Not sure what tyres you ha... 
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I definitely had one with the bad tires...

 
 By: patrick_y : September 8th, 2017-16:35
I had one with touring tires, Michelins if I recall correctly. I was rather surprised that the tires had such limited grip. My normal car has Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires; so that's my baseline. But the Toyota 86 is definitely a great concept and we n... 
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"limited grip"

 
 By: Velociphile - No longer in the building : September 9th, 2017-01:32
Hi Patrick, If your baseline is Mich Pilot SS then I understand. 8-) That is a whopping amount of stick. I'm less fussed about that, the thing I am always looking for is progression. The Primacys just don't seem to have that in the damp and cold UK especi... 
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E39 BMW?

 
 By: patrick_y : September 11th, 2017-12:25
540 V8 BMW? I personally really enjoyed the way the E39 generation of BMW 5er vehicles drove. They were a great balance of comfort and sportiness, and a bit more on the sporty side. I had an E60 BMW 545i, a vehicle that was another good balance of comfort... 
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Funny the cars we are talking about in the same thread as GT86.....

 
 By: Velociphile - No longer in the building : September 13th, 2017-11:01
2-10x the price and 1.5 - 3.5x the power..... Patrick, I guess it all depends on what you're looking for. You're lucky to have the problem. At these levels I think it is hairsplitting differences as to whatever floats your boat. I am very driven by the dr... 
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Good to know about the McLaren...

 
 By: patrick_y : September 14th, 2017-11:58
I'll have to pay attention to that. It's a flat crank V8 built by Ricardo, it shouldn't sound too bad. There's also a Sport Exhaust optional extra. I recall the Aston Martin V12 Vantage S, it had an amazing sound and amazing looks. Unfortunately not much ... 
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"Flat crank V8....." "...shouldn't sound bad"

 
 By: Velociphile - No longer in the building : September 19th, 2017-12:02
Well it may have been designed, engineered and developed by the unsung Ricardo, but the customer, MCL, still chose the sound. Don't let the Huracan's so called blindspot put you off. Spread the mirrors wider than usual.
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