Reflections on getting a 'j u m b o' not an Ultra Thin

May 29, 2017,10:32 AM
 


The cut diamond shape of the real 'j u m b o' rests in the sunlight

With the original single fold clasp 'j u m b o' is sucked on the wrist of her new owner like a silk limpet.


Unpopular and somewhat superceded in the minds of a new generation of buyers, I understand that something had to be done to this icon.  In the mid-naughties, customers wanted a bulked up look and feel, and more stage presence duly preferring the new 15300 which had overtaken sales with the mass produced divided labour line 3120.  Feeling twice the weight, with a bulky twin butterfly clasp, this design was pumped even further and carried to the  'lost in case' conclusion of the 15400.  These AP 'Submariners', stole the show with a new generation of buyers uninterested and overlooking the meaning and heritage of the 2121, let alone the the mythical mix of masculinity and daintiness present in the skin hugging thin, jewellery inspired, cut gem borne of Genta's one night of  sweaty insanity in 1971.

So it took Octavio Garcia's oh so subtle and successful attention to detail to recover the manufactured case form and dial detail and date disk of the jumbo to become the Ultra Thin yet passed off the oddly misplaced thick and bulky twin butterfly clasp.  It went all collectors-only-super-success, 'the piece no one can get, but everyone has', doubling in price and becoming another victim of the distasteful symbiosis of brands and resellers consigning the last of the old freely available15202s, with three colours of dial and truly thin bracelet and clasp (oh, and a four figure price tag) to history in the backend of 2011.  So if you want to keep the original aesthetic of thinness with some dial colour options in a late model, then the15202st.OO.0944.xx is your girl.  Or you have to find a NOS APPA clasp to fit and like the dial colour of your UT.

Velociphile












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Hello my sister! Do you have a single folding clasp with AP logo inside or without?

 
 By: nafetS : May 29th, 2017-10:55
Mine's without. ...  
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Mine is with

 
 By: Velociphile - No longer in the building : May 29th, 2017-11:05
Nice shot. Wow. Has yours ever been valeted or refinished? Velociphile
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Not, that i know of. I'm the second owner, but the first owner held it imprisoned as a safe queen.

 
 By: nafetS : May 29th, 2017-11:22
Hmm, all people I meet with older 15202s have an AP logo inside the clasp. Mine does not (even though it does have AP engravings). I'm starting to wonder, whether this is ok.
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I remember shopping in 2006 and they had both types in stock

 
 By: Velociphile - No longer in the building : May 29th, 2017-11:43
but I'm not a true RO connossieur. I'm sure one will be along in a moment.
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Which Series Came with the APPA Clasp?

 
 By: L8BRKN : May 31st, 2017-20:52
It's my understanding the APPA clasp started with the E-Series and continued on until the 40th Anniversary model in 2012. Can anyone verify the accuracy of this? I bought an E-Series new in 2005 and it came with the APPA clasp. ...  
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Mine (without APPA) is also an E-series o_O [nt]

 
 By: nafetS : May 31st, 2017-22:11
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Interesting! I was going to ask you what series yours is . . .

 
 By: L8BRKN : May 31st, 2017-23:27
It appears then that E-Series pieces came both ways.
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E7xxxx here.

 
 By: Velociphile - No longer in the building : June 1st, 2017-00:53
That was my experience in the dealer back then; both were in stock.
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E - 4xxxx [nt]

 
 By: nafetS : June 1st, 2017-08:56
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E9xxxx here. [nt]

 
 By: L8BRKN : June 1st, 2017-22:11
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Great post, highly amusing. [nt]

 
 By: MichaelC : June 1st, 2017-09:05
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