Patek Philippe

Hi,

Unfortunately I don't have a pic of the case back but there's one on the Patek Philippe website under the reference 5102.

Cheers

Dje

from our dear SJX ...



In this case I have no problem with the proportion, even when the movement is small.

What I would love to compare is the level of finish on the "same" movement, from watches in different price categories ...

Oliver

But you have a point on the degree of finish between a " Standart " 240 and the one used in the Celestial.

It would be interesting to compare, yes.

Best,

Nicolas.

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Hi,

What I can tell you is that Swiss watchmakers do not change the level of finish of a specific calibre depending on the final watch it will be put in.

A 6000 has exactly the same level of finish of the base calibre as the 5102.

The workers finishing the calibre have  no idea in what watch the calibre will end.

And that would make little sense to have different levels. Would you want of a lesser calibre in a 6000? 

That's exactly the same for instance with a calibre base 899 in a JLC. you get the same finish for the ones mounted in a Grande Ultra Thin or Master Auto and the ones mountd in a AP or VC watch.

Cheers

Dje

for your reply, but if only I could believe.

Especially with Swiss watchmakers and my experiences with PP watches in specific, I still have my doubts these days - to be honest.

Don´t get me wrong, I know what they are able to deliver ... in some of their watches ...

During my personal obervations I saw this & that. Things to die for and things above standard - even when the standard is high-level.

Oliver

Hi Oliver,

What is there that you don't believe?

Of course Patek Philippe has a much higher standard of finish on manual wind chronograph, tourbillon or minute repeater calibres than on a 215, a 240 or a 324.

They are not positioned at the same level.

But inside the production of a specific calibre, there is no planned difference of finish.

If you look at Lemania based chrono calibres in the last 20 years, there was an improvement on time regarding the decoration finish. The more recent ones have added inner angles that were not present on the first 3970 issued. But improvement was made at one time and was found in all references in that calibre.

Cheers

Dje

thanks a lot for your detailed reply, which I appreciate a lot.

Best,
Oliver

For sure, we don´t need unattainable watches - only!

Oliver

and Jerome the report was worth the waiting. Once more good pictures, informativ details, personal thoughts ... and I appreciate them all.

Innovation not for the sake of communication (only) and cased in something that doesn´t show beauty at the first sight (at least to me).
Congrats, Patek Philippe!

Unfortunately I will not qualify to be one of the "test operators", but really hope these watches will not become safe queens (Risk is there!) and we will get
some real life reports from time to time.

Thanks a lot, Jerome!

Oliver

Hi,

Thank you for your comments Oliver.

As you suggest Thierry Stern himself said to me that he hopes that many will be worn regularly, as he knows that obviously some will end up in safes.

In fact there are some prototypes worn everyday somewhere in Plan Les Ouates as you can imagine, so that they are sure....

Cheers

Dje

Interesting to note the advancements made to the 5550P. The 'clean' room reminds me of a highly infectious disease centre or a top secret biological testing area instead of a process in watchmaking.

I like the watch in it's entirety and kudos to Mr. Stern for not putting a premium on this new technology. Acquiring one from an AD however,may pose a bit of a hurdle, like the other Advance Research pieces.

cheers

fernando

nt

and fantastic, comprehensive story.  Thank you so much for sharing with me.  Given the advances to the traditional escapement and balance, I can't help but wonder whether the tourbillon will continue to be a meaningful tool for enhancing the accuracy of the wristwatch!


Regards,  Jeff.

Another would be if we will ever see a Silinvar tourbillon?

I have no answer!

Thank you for your comments.

Cheers

Dje

Wow, it looks like an amazing achievement, doesn't it? It really outperforms the results, at least on the graphics, and the whole new movement looks gorgeous.

Bravo PP!

Thanks for sharing.

Vte

nt

a lot of technical information very enjoyable to read and very easy to understand. Having been in endless discussions with many of the manufactures about Silicium(silicon) for mechanical applications, the commitment that Patek Philippe has made to this material and related processes is admirable in several respects. Thank you very much for the article and I hope it finds its way into the archive, something for the history books. Well done.

Best to all,
Tim

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I'm happy that a brand like PP still keeps innovating. This top watchmaker could have been satisfied with what it represents today and just remains still.

I'm not a specialist in horology but I like what is technic and you report was highly understandable

Cordially,

Mark

By the way : THEY all live in a Yellow Submarine ...Yellow Submarine ... Yellow Submarine ...

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nt

and what an awsome piece...does it get any better than this..?  If they'd like me to wear one for testing purposes my day job is quality control of pharmaceuticals and I will happily wear this for them and never take it off..!

Thanks for the report.

Andy.

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This report is chock full of info. I take it the blue is from the photosensitive resin or was it to match Thierry Stern's tie?

Aloha,

Bob

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I learned a lot and found the innovations to be extremely interesting.  I think the movement is quite lovely, even if the dial is perhaps a little staid for me.  Kudos to Patek!

Cheers,
Daos

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