Patek Philippe

Many find 5110 attrative, including me !

My intent was only to clarify the personal reasons why I don’t feel fully compelled by the 5110 even though I think it’s a great watch in and by itself.

And I fully agree with you concerning the “scissors” hands of the 5130!

Best, Emmanuel

My dear Emmanuel,

I understand your feelings very well.

Sometimes we love the IDEA of a watch more than the watch itself.

On paper, a Patek World Timer is almost impossible not to admire: history, complication, elegance, travel romance, and of course Patek magic.

But at the end of the day, the watch has to catch you EMOTIONALLY on the wrist. Not in theory, not in photos, not in the catalogue, but when you actually wear it.

And if this final spark is missing, then it is probably not the right one, no matter how great the watch objectively is.

Maybe that is the beauty and the danger of collecting:
the head can explain everything, but the HEART still has the FINAL VOTE.

Best,
Thomas

You express very well the possible gap between the idea of a watch and the emotion it gives in person.

My intent was just to try better understand the actual reasons of the absence of deep emotional connection I felt with the 5110.

Which means trying to better identify what I’m really looking for in a watch…

Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

Best, Emmanuel

were the watches I bought for intellectual reasons: brand prestige, perceived brand value, movement reputation, technical hierarchy, all things like that.

Almost all of those watches eventually left my collection again.

The ones that stayed were the watches that emotionally captured me - completely independent of the brand.

In the end, I think emotions always win (should win) in watch collecting.

I find the post- ca. 2000 world time pieces to be modern classics.

And I really admire them.

But it seems that they don’t fully connect with what I’m personally looking for in watch.

And I just wanted to try better understand why.

Best, Emmanuel

As you/others note...
That's the most important, after all. This is not really an intellectual pursuit, although that can be an important element...

emotional reasons can't always be clearly grasped and intellectualized. But I still find it interesting to try to understand them better, even if a part of the mystery remains…

But the 39.5 mm diameter doesn’t work as well as the 37 mm of the 5110 on my wrist.

And as I said in the post above, I just feel more attracted to other kind of Worldtimers and I’m not passionate enough about automatic movements in general and about the 240 in particular.

Best, Emmanuel

There is no other path to being happy with the watches one has imho.
Have a great weekend my friend,
Alex

All great. Let us just "Rachmaninov" over these...

“let us “Rachmaninov over these”” but you definitely have a great trio here, Ivan!

Best, Emmanuel

I fully understand, it's very personal and the wrist test is unpredictable. For me it is the go/no-go test for all my watches.

The WT is a complication I love, both for practical and esthetical reasons.

The 5110 and 5130 are both wonderful references in their own right.

For the reasons I have tried to explain above, they do not evoke in me that obscure but essential feeling I’m looking for, but I know that this is purely personal and that it does not detract from their intrinsic greatness.

Best, Emmanuel

Many times that I thought I would love a watch but it didn't sing to me in the wrist.

Having said that, the 5110R is love at first sight for me, and not just for her aesthetic beauty! 

There's no doubt for me that it's a great piece in itself.
Were my expectations and inner dreams different I could/would want to own it.
Best, Emmanuel

…and of course your pov about 5110 can only be respected but for me ref 5110 will always remain one of the most beautiful worldtimers specially in rose gold and platinum versions

On the contrary, it’s a gorgeous watch. It just lacks this little something I’m looking for in a watch.

Nothing more than a personal feeling and very personal expectations.

And my only intent was to try clarifying my reasons not at all to criticize this reference.

Best, Emmanuel

5110 P (and even R) are really top cool but I also didn’t pull the trigger on them again (I say again as I had both of them in the past). Probably I need something more spicy now, a Worldtime that would bring me a WOW effect and not only being super cool… Maybe something will come shortly that ticks these boxes… 😉 Stay tuned…

to seeing what’s coming! 😇
Best, Emmanuel