Watch Fraud at Phillips: Cozmopak on the 'Sickening' Reality of Auction Authenticity
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Watch Fraud at Phillips: Cozmopak on the 'Sickening' Reality of Auction Authenticity

By Cozmopak · Jan 31, 2023 · 47 replies
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Cozmopak's post brings to light a critical issue within the luxury watch auction market: the prevalence of fraudulent watches, even at prestigious houses like Phillips. He highlights the work of independent investigators like Perezcope, whose detailed analyses often expose these discrepancies. Cozmopak questions why such significant fraud isn't more widely discussed and addressed within the collector community, arguing that it fundamentally diminishes the enjoyment of the hobby.

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I’m sure many of you are familiar with Perezcope, a gentleman who has a good eye for detecting fraudulent watches, especially those sold at auctions.

Recently, Phillips has been the target of several of his investigations.  

I find it absolutely sickening that this fraud occurs at multi billion dollar enterprises like Phillips.

In my opinion, this isn’t talked about enough in the collector community, and the fact that Phillips continues to get away with these types of infractions is beyond me.

It truly diminishes the enjoyment of our hobby.






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Cozmopak
Jan 31, 2023

I think there are many times when they know better but pretend not to know

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@lberti
Feb 1, 2023

The auction house could have done the same and drop them an email. So easy 🤔

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Thomas_3
Feb 1, 2023

away from preowned watches. Learned a lesson years ago on something besides a watch and said never again and I stick to that. Not saying every per-owned seller is questionable because there are some good ones on this forum and other places, Once bitten, twice shy.

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BigAppleBill
Feb 1, 2023

The difference between a reputable dealer/auction house and a disreputable one is the way they address an issue when it arises. The reputable ones step up and go out of their way to make things right with the buyer. If there's an issue that Phillips needs to address, then let's hope they do what's right and fair. The collecting community is watching.

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David Allen
Feb 1, 2023

It's a shame that publications like Hodinkee don't cover important issues like fakes being sold in auctions. Their silence helps perpetuate this fraud.

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Dr No
Feb 1, 2023

. . . really shocked?

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