Swatch Group 2016 Profit Drop & Market Debate
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Swatch Group 2016 Profit Drop & Market Debate

By Ornatus-Mundi · Jul 15, 2016 · 112 replies
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Ornatus-Mundi's 2016 post on Swatch Group's dramatic profit drop offers a crucial historical snapshot of the luxury watch market. This discussion provides valuable context on how industry downturns are perceived and debated by collectors, highlighting long-standing issues that continue to resonate today. Understanding these past market shifts helps contextualize current industry trends and brand strategies.

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In an earnings call today, Swatch Group's President Nick Hayek had to announce really bad news: The watch conglomerate's profits drop by 60% for the first 6 months of 2016 (y-o-y), mainly attributable to dwindling sales in Hong Kong and Europe, particularly France and Switzerland. Furthermore, the profit margin halved from 18% to 9%, which analysts consider an alarming sign.

 

Swatch Group thus follows a general pessimistic trend in the industry. Sales in the watch industry as a whole dropped by almost 10% alone this year across the three large conglomerates Richemont, LVMH and Swatch Group.

Swatch Group will comment in detail on the situation and elaborate which measures it intends to enact on 21 July.

We will stay tuned and report!

Cheers,
Magnus  


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dr.kol
Jul 15, 2016
Thank you for reporting.

For a longer time I have been expecting this and I'm afraid that the slide has just started. I have seen the same to happen again and again in other industries: Strengthening mart leading to increasing prices leading to increasing profits leading to increasing investments to additional capacity leading to lowering quality but always increasing prices. Leading to market Crash. The good news is that such a market collapse is needed. We need better quality and more sensible prices which are related

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MTR
Jul 15, 2016
+1

IMHO (non-exhaustive list): Managers have to be watch lovers who understand what they do and do it with enthusiasm and focus on a sustainable development. Reasonable prices (in Austria i.e. a Rolex DD40 Platinum costs K€ 22 more than the WG version...). Greed leads to nowhere. Quality of product and service on one hand and prices for them on the other have to be in a certain relation (I don\'t want to wait months of months for a service just to have the watch sent back again) Attractive offers a

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Mark in Paris
Jul 15, 2016
I will defend quite a different position Kari, just for the exercize

Quality: I'm not sure watches today are inferior in quality than the watches from the 1980's for instance. Steel quality is better, finishing is better in our movements than in former versions (324 from 315 or actual other movements compared the 27-460 etc...). It is a bit like cars: vintage is beautiful but plastic, leather and steel were poor quality compared to today's. Real new competition: knowing the huge number of watch brands, at every level of price, there is a lot of competition. Furth

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dr.kol
Jul 15, 2016
Like always Mark, I agree with you at least partly.

Being greedy in business is normal - it's the name of the game. In watches we reached a level where the prices just like the profit margins are totally insane. Now we will come to a situation that the manufacturers need to cope with that situation. As we speak about Patek, I hope that they will cut the production and shift those resources to servicing the old watches. As a second step introduce some more affordable crisis watches like 5170A - but limited production. I believe that Patek can surv

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Mark in Paris
Jul 15, 2016
I totally agree with this analysis [nt]

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dr.kol
Jul 15, 2016
Wow Mark. You agree... Thanks! [nt]

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