Patek Philippe Ref. 5960P vs. 5270: A Collector's Grail Dilemma
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Patek Philippe Ref. 5960P vs. 5270: A Collector's Grail Dilemma

By 1WatchMan · Apr 11, 2020 · 32 replies
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1WatchMan's contemplation of his Patek Philippe Ref. 5960P as a potential 'grail' against the allure of the Ref. 5270 offers a timeless dilemma for collectors: consolidate for a perceived ultimate piece or appreciate the practical versatility of an existing favorite. His detailed breakdown of the 5960P's daily wear advantages provides valuable insights into how personal lifestyle and functional preferences shape a collector's journey, even when faced with horological icons.





I’m rarely wearing my 5960P during this lockdown period, but I do have it with me at home.

I enjoy it keeping it running all the time, which is quite easy thanks to the handy power reserve indication. I like seeing the days passing on its beautiful annual calendar display. And I also play with the chrono flyback function from time to time, just for fun.

But you know how this works, you cannot avoid temptations, which are everywhere. And for my 5960, the main contender is the 5270, the watch that I always considered to be my grail (together with the 5970). I’ve never seen a 5970 in person, but I’ve had the opportunity to handle a few 5270s in the past, which served to confirm how much I love this reference.







If I could afford both, the solution would be clear, with only the easy challenge of finding complementary case materials or dial colours. But this is “unfortunately” not an option.

So the thought that’s coming back to my mind every now and then is to consolidate my collection and use some of the pieces I currently own (including the 5960) to help with the funding and acquire a 5270. On paper, the perpetual calendar chrono is definitely a superior watch from every angle, including a gorgeous manual winding calibre and optimal proportions, which make it sit perfectly on my wrist (IMO, of course).

Having said that, my 5960P has beaten the 5270 so far every single time. And the main reasons are:

- I would miss some of my pieces a little bit too much. I’ve bought every one of them for a reason, and on watch will not fill all the gaps. I must confess that I prefer quantity to quality here.
- I use my watches daily, so the automatic movement is more convenient from a practical perspective.
- I do like power reserve indicators. They are quite handy during the weekend when the daily wearer is in the drawer waiting for Monday. And it also helps to keep the watch running in a wider range of the power reserve, avoiding winding it fully every day (which means that the mainspring only works fully charged most of the time).
- And I also prefer window displays for the calendar instead of subdials. Again, practical reasons. Although the dial layout of the 5270 is visually perfect, I have to say.

What do you think? What would you do?

Thanks for reading and stay safe!

About the Patek Philippe Ref. 5960

The Patek Philippe Complications reference 5960A, introduced in stainless steel, represents a significant offering within the brand's annual calendar chronograph series. This particular reference is notable for being the first annual calendar chronograph from Patek Philippe to be offered in a non-precious metal, making it a distinctive piece in the Complications collection. It combines practical complications with a robust case material, appealing to collectors seeking a blend of utility and horological complexity.

This reference features a 40.5mm stainless steel case, housing the self-winding Caliber CH 28-520 QA 24H. The movement provides a power reserve of approximately 55 hours and is visible through a sapphire crystal case back. The dial is presented in white, protected by a sapphire crystal, and the watch is water-resistant to 30 meters. The integrated stainless steel bracelet complements the case material, providing a cohesive aesthetic.

The 5960A in stainless steel holds a specific position for collectors due to its material choice and the integrated bracelet, differentiating it from its precious metal counterparts. Its combination of an annual calendar and chronograph functions, along with the 24-hour indication, makes it a highly functional and mechanically interesting timepiece. The special hand set and case back decoration mentioned for this specific 5960A further emphasize its unique attributes within the production run.

Specifications

Caliber
Cal.CH 28-520 QA 24H
Case
stainless steel
Diameter
40.5mm
Dial
white
Water Resist.
30m
Crystal
Sapphire

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amanico
Apr 11, 2020

But it is a flyback chrono and an annual calendar. AND, with its mono counter, it is really special and versatile. Best, Nicolas

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1WatchMan
Apr 11, 2020

I still remember when the 5960P was first launched and I fell deeply in love. Way out of my reach at the time. It's a true grail to me 😊

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Watchlover42
Apr 11, 2020

With the first automatic in-house chronograph movement it's a milestone for PP. I own a 3970 as well but my 5960 gets lot more wrist time. Love it!

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FabR
Apr 11, 2020

I also find the 5960 to be more versatile, while the 5270 is pure elegance. It would be a top piece to wear on certain occasions, but there are fewer of those occasions. Which other Pateks (if any) would you let go along with the 5960? These are very personal choices in the end, but my gut reaction is -- unless I'm sure the 5270 is really my "grail" (and that it will continue to be for a while!) -- I'd probably wait a bit longer rather than substantially impacting my collection for one piece onl

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patrick_y
Apr 11, 2020

The 5270s are fantastic, as are the 5970s. But the 5960P is definitely worth keeping!

1W
1WatchMan
Apr 11, 2020

I have to agree with you 😉

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