Patek Philippe Nautilus 5711/1A vs. 5712/1A
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Patek Philippe Nautilus 5711/1A vs. 5712/1A

By patekova · Jan 12, 2018 · 26 replies
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Patekova initiates a compelling comparison between two highly sought-after Patek Philippe Nautilus references, the 5711/1A and the 5712/1A. His post explores the aesthetic and horological distinctions, inviting the community to weigh in on the preferences for simplicity versus complication, and the appeal of different dial colors. This discussion offers valuable insights for collectors contemplating these iconic models.

I will be happy to start. The 5711 seems to be a significantly more desired reference. While I can understand the reasons why: historical lineage dating back to 3700; elegant, sporty simplicity; and pure aesthetic preference for the uncluttered dial compared to what some consider the asymmetry of 5712 - I find the 5712 to be much more interesting visually, with its moon phase/date register and power reserve. Also the 5712 is virtually as thin and comfortable to wear as 5711 and has a wonderful (IMHO) complication and Patek at least for me is all about complications. 

Regarding white vs blue/black 5711 dial, yes the blue/black is generally more desired, but the icey cool, bold white seems to be gaining ground. The blue/black is shimmeringly beautiful in daylight, but appears rather dark and less interesting at night. The white is fantastic in any light.

I would like to be able to rate the 3 in order of preference, but I can't since the 5712 is a relatively recent acquisition and I am not sure that even over time I will be able to do a rating that will remain my preference. The one thing I can say for certain, is that for me they are each very different in character from the other and I am thrilled to own the "set".

How do you feel about these 3 models compared to each other?

I look forward to reading your viewpoint.

Best, Patekova














About the Patek Philippe Nautilus Ref. 5711

The Patek Philippe reference 5711/1A-011, part of the Complications collection, is distinguished by its white dial, offering a different aesthetic compared to other dial variations within the 5711 series. This particular configuration provides a clean and legible presentation, appealing to collectors who prefer a more understated yet refined look. It represents a specific iteration of a well-known Patek Philippe model, recognized for its integrated design.

The watch features a 40mm stainless steel case, housing the self-winding Caliber 26-330 SC movement. This movement provides a power reserve of 45 hours. The case is fitted with a sapphire crystal, contributing to its water resistance of 120 meters. The fixed bezel and integrated bracelet are characteristic elements of its construction.

This reference appeals to collectors interested in the evolution of Patek Philippe's offerings, particularly those seeking specific dial colors within established model lines. Its production run from 2019 to 2021 marks it as a relatively recent, yet now discontinued, variant. The watch's specifications align with Patek Philippe's standards for mechanical timepieces.

Specifications

Caliber
Cal.26-330 SC
Case
Stainless Steel
Diameter
40mm
Dial
White
Water Resist.
120m
Crystal
Sapphire

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drphileasfogg
Jan 12, 2018

One of the few asymmetrical dial that works; although beautiful the 5711A has IMO a large dial that feels empty. As watches grew in size over the years, dials feel empty to me. Same with the Calatrava 5227, same with the AP RO hence I feel inclined to get the chrono. That say I like the 5711A white dial markers, the white/ blue contrast is great.

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Clueless_Collector
Jan 12, 2018

Tiffany loves you 😁 Great collection of co-brand PP, I’m glad I made it to waiting list for the blue 5711, after knowing they have closed the order. Rgds Raymond

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runie
Jan 12, 2018

....because I prefer the heavy metal versions. If I had to choose, first I would go for the blue dial, because it is near to the origin, the 3700... Second choice is even more difficult. I tend to the silver-white dial, in reality it shows an amazing change between clear white, light grey and shining silver. Just depends on the surrounding, sunshine, cloudy sky, inside light.... My 5712 has very poor wristtime... It took lots of time to get convinced by the asymmetrical dial... The hidden queen

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Baron - Mr Red
Jan 13, 2018

I would say that I like the 5711 most of the three. Reason being that it is closest to the 3700 and also I like the simplicity of the dial. I would also add that the Tiffany would be a major positive for me on that watch. Having said that, sometimes one must put instinct back into the cupboard. More and more people that I talk to who actually own both references tell me that the 5712 is a lot more interesting and a more desirable watch to wear. Having been (partially) down the trial route with t

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dr.kol
Jan 13, 2018

3700-001 & 3712-001. Best, Kari

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patekova
Jan 13, 2018

Vintage vs. modern. Each has its own merits. Eg - Some might prefer screw down crown and sweep seconds of 5711.

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