Patek Philippe Nautilus 3712 vs. 5712 Comparison
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Patek Philippe Nautilus 3712 vs. 5712 Comparison

By dr.kol · Apr 9, 2012 · 3 replies
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Dr.kol's detailed comparison of the Patek Philippe Nautilus references 3712 and 5712 remains a vital resource for collectors. His analysis, enriched by technical drawings and side-by-side imagery, highlights the subtle yet significant differences in case construction and design philosophy between these two iconic models. This post is particularly valuable for understanding the evolution of the Nautilus case from Gerald Genta's original two-part concept to the more complex multi-part structure of later references.


Back to the topic... I could not find the material I got from Patek in Geneva. The enclosed pictures I took from a relatively new book Collecting Nautilus and Modern Patek Philippe Wristwatches" by Osvaldo & Patrizzi. I can recommend the book to the interested ones even it's costing as much as the service of a Calatrava.

Anyhow, I have many times emphasized that 3712 is having a case made of two parts. This is the original design of Mr. Gerald Genta. Here is the drawing of the case. It looks very simple but it is not cheap to produce.





In the case of 5712 there are much more parts. It is cheaper to construct and it is much closer to the traditional case construction than Genta's original design. The construction looks as follows:





Next the watches side-by-side. The older model 3712 is on the left and 5712 on the right. If you watch the picture carefully, you will start to see the differences:





The main differences listed:

                                                                                                      3712                                                                                            5712

Crown                                                                                          Push-down                                                                                 Screw-down
Case width                                                                                 42 mm                                                                                          43 mm
Case thickness                                                                          8.37 mm                                                                                       8.52 mm
Case at 3 and 9 o'clock                                                           straight                                                                                         shaped
Direction of the date numbers                                                same as reading direction                                                       partly upside down
7 o'clock marker                                                                        present                                                                                        missing
6 o'clock marker                                                                        rectangular                                                                                 rounded off
hands                                                                                          heavier                                                                                        slimmer
center links of bracelet                                                            more rounded                                                                             more square

I had an opportunity to compare my 3712 with a new 5712 and the feeling of the bracelet of 3712 was more sophisticated and comfortable. But that is just a matter of taste.

The two watches share the same movement and they look very similar. But thanks to the case construction, for me they are two different watches.

Best, Kari

About the Patek Philippe 5712 Ref. 5712

The Patek Philippe Complications Reference 5712 is a notable offering within the brand's Complications collection, distinguished by its asymmetrical dial layout and a suite of practical indications. It presents a sophisticated blend of functionality and design, offering a moon phase, power reserve indicator, and an analog date display, all arranged to create a distinctive visual identity that sets it apart from more traditional Patek Philippe designs.

This particular reference features a stainless steel case measuring 40 mm in diameter, housing the self-winding caliber 240 PS IRM C LU. This movement is known for its slim profile, achieved through the integration of a micro-rotor, contributing to the watch's comfortable wearability. The watch is fitted with a sapphire crystal and offers a water resistance of 60 meters, with a power reserve of approximately 48 hours.

For collectors, the 5712 represents an accessible entry into Patek Philippe's complicated timepieces, offering a range of functions without the complexity of a perpetual calendar or chronograph. Its stainless steel construction and integrated bracelet provide a robust and versatile option, appealing to those seeking a daily wearable complicated watch. The reference has been in production since 2006, with the 5712/1A denoting the stainless steel bracelet variant.

Specifications

Caliber
240 PS IRM C LU
Case
Stainless Steel
Diameter
40 mm
Dial
Blue
Water Resist.
60m
Crystal
Sapphire

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tahoeblue
Apr 9, 2012

maybe due to its rarity (though that seems to make little sense). You have however missed 2 details which I find preferable on the 5712. First the font on the date wheel is larger, therefore easier to read. Second, the crown is larger on the 5712. The small crown is a bit frustrating on the 3712 and the other "original" Nautilus versions.

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dr.kol
Apr 9, 2012

I did not even try to make a complete list. There are also some small differences on the seconds sub-dial, power reserve dial, the hour markers are also a little bit different, etc. I don't care which version is rare and which one not. The rarity can only influence to the resale price and I will not sell my 3712. What counts for me is the case construction and the "originality" of 3712. However, if I would own a 5712, I would wear it with great pleasure. Best, Kari

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ArthurSG
Apr 9, 2012

The devil is indeed in the detail. I start to see why you love your 3712.

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