Patek Philippe Lugs & Hands: 4 References
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Patek Philippe Lugs & Hands: 4 References

By quattro · Feb 25, 2025 · 28 replies
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Emmanuel, known as quattro on WatchProSite, delves into the distinctive design elements of Patek Philippe's three-tier lugs and syringe hands. His comprehensive post highlights four key references, tracing the lineage of these aesthetic choices from vintage models to contemporary perpetual calendars and chronographs. This exploration offers a valuable perspective for collectors interested in Patek Philippe's design evolution and its enduring appeal.

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I couldn't think of any better way of celebrating my new and deeper involvement on WPS than creating a new thread centred on some Patek Philippe models with a gorgeous design:
  • The perpetual calendar ref. 5320
  • The chronograph ref. 5172
  • The small seconds ref. 2405 (source of inspiration of the three-tier lugs of ref. 5320 & 5172)
  • The perpetual calendar ref. 1591 (source of inspiration of the syringe hands of ref. 5320 & 5172 and of the dial layout of the ref. 5320)
Best to you all,
Emmanuel


A/ Ref. 5320 (40 x 11.13 mm case)

1/ Ref. 5320G-001 with cal. 324 S Q (2017)















credit: hodinkee (1, 3, 4) & monochrome


2/ Ref. 5320G-011 with cal 26-330 S Q (2022)













credit: monochrome & swiss watches magazine (last photo)


B/ Ref. 5172 (41 x 11.45 mm & cal. CH 29-535 PS)

1/ Ref. 5172G-010 (2022)















credit: swiss watches magazine (1), watch collecting lifestyle (2) & high time


2/ Ref. 5172G-001 (2019)



















credit: monochrome (1-6) & high time (7-9)


C/ Two inspirational references

1/ Ref. 2405 with cal. 12-120 and three-tier claw lugs (circa 1945)















credit: bonhams (1) & orologeriatempus 


2/ Ref. 1591, first water resistant perpetual calendar wristwatch with cal. 12'''120 SC Q (manufactured in 1944 - source of inspiration of the syringe hands & dial layout of the 5320)







credit: revolution








credit: le monde Edmond

About the Patek Philippe Grand Complications Ref. 1591

The Patek Philippe Reference 1591 is a significant perpetual calendar wristwatch, notable for its early integration of this complex complication into a wrist-worn format. It represents a key development in Patek Philippe's history of high complications, preceding many later perpetual calendar models and establishing design cues that would influence future collections. This reference is particularly recognized for its clear dial layout and the integration of perpetual calendar functions in a balanced manner.

This reference features a yellow gold case, housing a manual-winding movement. The case diameter measures 37mm, a substantial size for its era, contributing to its legibility and presence on the wrist. The watch is fitted with a Hesalite crystal, typical for watches of this period, protecting a dial that often features applied hour markers and a well-organized display of the perpetual calendar functions.

As a perpetual calendar, the Reference 1591 appeals to collectors interested in historically important complicated watches. Its design elements, such as the syringe hands and dial layout, have been noted as inspirations for later Patek Philippe perpetual calendar models like the Reference 5320. The scarcity of this reference, combined with its technical sophistication and aesthetic influence, makes it a highly sought-after piece in the vintage market.

Specifications

Caliber
12'''120 Q
Case
Yellow gold
Diameter
37mm
Dial
Silver
Crystal
Hesalite

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patrick_y
Feb 25, 2025
Great post! Well researched!

I really like the two tiered (I sometimes have referred to the "stepped lug" in the 5070 and other models) lugs. The three tiered versions look good in my eyes as they have almost an Art Deco flair from certain angles. I really would be interested to see an Art Deco inspired dial that goes well with these three-tiered lugs and see if it's overall a harmonious design. Yes, yes yes, be careful what you wish for... It may look great. It may look terrible. But I'm definitely curious what can be done

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quattro
Feb 25, 2025
Thank you, Patrick!

Wouldn’t you say that Patek has done a true Art Deco tiered case and dial with the ref. 5101? Then maybe a simple set of blackened Breguet numerals and leaf hands would do the job of giving these cases with three-tier lugs a full Art Deco vibe. Best, Emmanuel credit: atelier de griff

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patrick_y
Feb 25, 2025
Yes!

This one and the 5124 look pretty good to me! The 5101 doesn't look great on my wrist unfortunately. But I do really like the 5124J and 5124G with salmon dial.

QU
quattro
Feb 25, 2025
Yes, the 5124 looks really nice.

But I’ve seen neither this one nor the 5101 in real life yet!

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patrick_y
Feb 26, 2025
I know two ladies who wears the 5101 extremely well!

They do look oversized on their petite wrists, but the whole ensemble comes off quite well. One of the two ladies is a significant other of a rather famous watchmaker.

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quattro
Feb 26, 2025
I've noticed that men tend to want their watches to fit perfectly

and tend to wear them tight, whereas it isn't rare that women wear oversized watches and don't necessarily mind wearing them loose. The beloved half of a famous watchmaker? I wonder who it can be!

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