Patek Philippe Lugs & Hands: 4 References
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Patek Philippe Lugs & Hands: 4 References

By quattro · Feb 25, 2025 · 28 replies
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Emmanuel, known as quattro on WatchProSite, delves into the distinctive design elements of Patek Philippe's three-tier lugs and syringe hands. His comprehensive post highlights four key references, tracing the lineage of these aesthetic choices from vintage models to contemporary perpetual calendars and chronographs. This exploration offers a valuable perspective for collectors interested in Patek Philippe's design evolution and its enduring appeal.

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I couldn't think of any better way of celebrating my new and deeper involvement on WPS than creating a new thread centred on some Patek Philippe models with a gorgeous design:
  • The perpetual calendar ref. 5320
  • The chronograph ref. 5172
  • The small seconds ref. 2405 (source of inspiration of the three-tier lugs of ref. 5320 & 5172)
  • The perpetual calendar ref. 1591 (source of inspiration of the syringe hands of ref. 5320 & 5172 and of the dial layout of the ref. 5320)
Best to you all,
Emmanuel


A/ Ref. 5320 (40 x 11.13 mm case)

1/ Ref. 5320G-001 with cal. 324 S Q (2017)















credit: hodinkee (1, 3, 4) & monochrome


2/ Ref. 5320G-011 with cal 26-330 S Q (2022)













credit: monochrome & swiss watches magazine (last photo)


B/ Ref. 5172 (41 x 11.45 mm & cal. CH 29-535 PS)

1/ Ref. 5172G-010 (2022)















credit: swiss watches magazine (1), watch collecting lifestyle (2) & high time


2/ Ref. 5172G-001 (2019)



















credit: monochrome (1-6) & high time (7-9)


C/ Two inspirational references

1/ Ref. 2405 with cal. 12-120 and three-tier claw lugs (circa 1945)















credit: bonhams (1) & orologeriatempus 


2/ Ref. 1591, first water resistant perpetual calendar wristwatch with cal. 12'''120 SC Q (manufactured in 1944 - source of inspiration of the syringe hands & dial layout of the 5320)







credit: revolution








credit: le monde Edmond

About the Patek Philippe Chronograph Ref. 5172

The Patek Philippe Chronograph reference 5172 represents a contemporary interpretation of the classic manually wound chronograph within the brand's collection. It succeeded the reference 5170, introducing updated case proportions and dial aesthetics while retaining the traditional two-register chronograph layout. This reference is distinguished by its round pushers and a slightly larger case diameter, offering a modern presence on the wrist while honoring Patek Philippe's heritage in complicated watchmaking. It is a key offering for collectors seeking a pure chronograph function without additional complications.

The 5172 is typically presented in a precious metal case, housing the in-house caliber CH 29-535 PS. This manual-wind movement is visible through a sapphire crystal case back, showcasing its traditional architecture and finishing. The movement provides a substantial power reserve, ensuring reliable timekeeping and chronograph operation. The front crystal is also sapphire, protecting a dial designed for legibility with applied numerals and a pulsometer scale.

This reference appeals to collectors who appreciate Patek Philippe's commitment to traditional haute horlogerie and the art of the manually wound chronograph. Its design cues, such as the syringe hands and applied Breguet numerals, evoke vintage chronographs while being executed with contemporary precision. The 5172 stands as a testament to Patek Philippe's enduring capability in producing high-quality, in-house chronograph movements, positioning it as a significant piece for enthusiasts of complicated timepieces.

Specifications

Caliber
CH 29-535 PS
Case
18k white gold
Diameter
41mm
Dial
Blue
Water Resist.
30m
Crystal
Sapphire

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patrick_y
Feb 25, 2025

I really like the two tiered (I sometimes have referred to the "stepped lug" in the 5070 and other models) lugs. The three tiered versions look good in my eyes as they have almost an Art Deco flair from certain angles. I really would be interested to see an Art Deco inspired dial that goes well with these three-tiered lugs and see if it's overall a harmonious design. Yes, yes yes, be careful what you wish for... It may look great. It may look terrible. But I'm definitely curious what can be done

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TeutonicCarFan
Feb 25, 2025

The 5326 is always on my mind as the -01 variant I find really attractive. I also do like a center seconds in general on watches. The overall movement doesn’t quite excite me as some others however. It’s interesting the 2022 release is -11, I can’t think of 10 other variants. That would be an interesting post ! Edit - interesting all the 5236 are stopped on 0 with their seconds hands. I don’t believe they have a zero reset or anything like that ?

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cazalea
Feb 25, 2025

I know it’s not on the same level as the Patek but the visuals are similar. This photo from 20 years ago: Long-gone now, to a friend’s husband. Thanks for this visual tidal wave of watches! Cazalea

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quattro
Feb 25, 2025

Wouldn’t you say that Patek has done a true Art Deco tiered case and dial with the ref. 5101? Then maybe a simple set of blackened Breguet numerals and leaf hands would do the job of giving these cases with three-tier lugs a full Art Deco vibe. Best, Emmanuel credit: atelier de griff

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patrick_y
Feb 25, 2025

This one and the 5124 look pretty good to me! The 5101 doesn't look great on my wrist unfortunately. But I do really like the 5124J and 5124G with salmon dial.

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quattro
Feb 25, 2025

I discovered that the display watches aren’t functional: they are blocked at 10:10 and do not work and aren’t for sale. That might be the explanation, as I imagine the watches lent to journalists are display watches only. Best, Emmanuel

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