
In this insightful comparison, xxcesar, a long-time Patek Philippe Nautilus owner, shares his candid thoughts on the current luxury watch market frenzy and introduces his new H. Moser & Cie. Streamliner. His detailed side-by-side analysis offers a refreshing perspective on what truly defines horological value and personal satisfaction beyond hype. This article explores why xxcesar, a collector who acquired his Nautilus 15 years ago, has found a new appreciation for independent watchmaking.

The Audemars Piguet Royal Oak reference 5712 represents a 36mm iteration within the Royal Oak series, produced during the 1980-1990 period. This reference features a blue dial configuration paired with stainless steel construction throughout both case and bracelet.
The 36mm stainless steel case houses the automatic caliber 2121 movement, delivering a 40-hour power reserve. The watch incorporates a fixed octagonal bezel and sapphire crystal, with 50-meter water resistance. The integrated steel bracelet completes the stainless steel construction.
This reference appeals to collectors seeking a vintage-production Royal Oak in the smaller 36mm case size. The blue dial variant offers an alternative to more common dial colors within the reference range. The decade-long production window from 1980-1990 places this reference within the early Royal Oak manufacturing period.
As for the Nautilus, you obviously made a very good choice 15 years ago (at least in hindsight ;-)....my simple advice is to be happy about it, and enjoy your Patek sports icon to the fullest! I can partly understand the economic concerns (though they become nonexistent if you do not intend to sell the watch), but I wouldn't really be bothered that some people (?) may view you as a "fashion victim"....let others think whatever they please, and keep enjoying a great piece of horology! Cheers.
I have also been looking at moser the past few years as I like the designs very much... A question thought, the caliber is not done by moser? Thanks
They are very open about Aghenor providing it. As this is another independent fine maker of mastery, nothing wrong with that from my pov.
They might be personal but I like that you seem to keep a distance from the watches and from the crowd. I find that this helps build a more rounded appreciation and ownership experience. As for the watches themselves, they’re lovely. I’m not especially drawn to this type of watch these days but they are nevertheless standouts in this category.
Never seen one of these Mosers in the flesh, but looking forward to. Initially, not my favorite look, but these things have to be seen in person. Enjoy your two beauties!
I personally like Moser, watches and the brand. I hope they succeed! This model is not for me, too unique if a design, looks like a watch the men in black would wear though! Movement looks downright gorgeous!
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