Patek Philippe Collecting: Unpredictable Models
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Patek Philippe Collecting: Unpredictable Models

By patekova · Feb 4, 2024 · 31 replies
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Patekova, a seasoned Patek Philippe collector, shares his unique perspective on the brand's unpredictable product strategy. He delves into how Patek's seemingly oblique statements and unexpected discontinuations or introductions, far from being a source of frustration, actually enhance the thrill of collecting. His insights challenge the conventional wisdom of market predictions, inviting readers to appreciate the 'fun and adventure' in Patek Philippe's approach.

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the  company, I might have a clue as to what watches would be discontinued and what types of watches might be introduced. But frankly, I am clueless. Perhaps, whether purposely or not, oblique statements from the company can lead to certain conclusions that prove to be totally false. Also, often there are no hints or statements at all and seemingly out of nowhere a totally unexpected discontinuation or introduction appears. Also, more important keeps the competition guessing at what Patek is up to.

In a New York Times interview on October 18, 2022, the day the 5811/1G was introduced Thierry Stern, apparently referring to steel Nautiluses was quoted as saying “ We have made enough”. Ok, so why that very day was the previously discontinued steel 5990/1A gray dial replaced by one with a blue dial? I thought that reference was history.

In the same interview Thierry was quoted as saying  “We’ll keep steel for sporty watches, mostly the Aquanaut.” And now we have heard that the supremely popular steel Aquanaut 5164A has been discontinued. Well maybe it will come back with a different dial or a slightly different case or maybe ….. I certainly would have zero confidence in any prediction I might make. Anyway, maybe it just was  time to move on, simple as that.

One might think I am criticizing Patek for being unpredictable or for making statements that might  lead us to conclusions that turn out to be incorrect. But I feel the opposite. Sometimes, one has to read between the lines to realize things  might not turn out as expected. We had reason to believe the 5711/1A was done. But then along came the 5711/1A green dial. . Finally that seemed to be it. But no. Then came Tiffany 170th, but there were hints …. 

I actually like their approach. It’s part of the fun and adventure, never knowing what’s next. It’s part of why we get so excited to find out what new watches will be introduced each March and why even though it might be a fool’s game we enjoy offering our predictions.

Ready to play the 2024 prediction game?

Best, Patekova






About the Patek Philippe Aquanaut Ref. 5164

The Patek Philippe Aquanaut reference 5164 is a travel time model within the Aquanaut collection. This specific reference is identified as 5164A-001, indicating a steel case.

The 5164A-001 features a rubber strap. No further details regarding the case material, crystal, or movement are provided.

This reference appeals to collectors seeking a Patek Philippe Aquanaut with a travel time complication and a rubber strap, suitable for various climates.

Specifications

Caliber
324 S C FUS
Case
Stainless steel
Diameter
40.8 mm
Dial
Black embossed
Water Resist.
120 meters
Crystal
Sapphire

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amanico
Feb 4, 2024
I have no damn idea. I just expect a more interesting collection than last year, to be honest.

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patekova
Feb 4, 2024
That would be wonderful if it happens.

PA
patrick_y
Feb 4, 2024
+1. I stopped trying to predict Patek's discontinuation scheme a decade ago.

But I realize, they don't want too many of a single model to be out there. Even a simple Calatrava model such as the 5127, they don't want there to be ten thousand identical colored 5127s out there. So they probably set a limit both in units, time, or other calculations, and when it hits, they make plans to discontinue it.

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GLau
Feb 4, 2024
Great post Patekova ! My prediction is a

5164G ! What are your thoughts ?

PA
patekova
Feb 4, 2024
Thank you Gordon. Your choice is logical…. so perhaps unlikely 😊. I truly have no idea.

CL
Clueless_Collector
Feb 4, 2024
I don’t know or care about what’s new because I’m clueless but I know for sure….

You are happy with those two, bingo!!! Congrats 🎉

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