
Patekova's original post delves into the Patek Philippe Ref. 5960 1/A, making a compelling case for its future as an iconic and highly coveted reference. He highlights its unique position as a complicated steel watch in regular production and draws parallels to historically significant vintage steel complications. This discussion explores why the 5960 1/A, despite initial sales challenges, is poised for significant appreciation among collectors.

The Patek Philippe reference 5004 is a highly regarded grand complication, combining a split-seconds chronograph with a perpetual calendar. This reference was a significant offering in Patek Philippe's catalog, representing a sophisticated blend of technical mastery and traditional watchmaking. It was produced in limited numbers, making it a sought-after piece among collectors of complex horology.
The watch features a 36mm platinum case with a thickness of 15mm, housing the manual-winding caliber CHR 27-70 Q. This movement provides a power reserve of 60 hours and is protected by a sapphire crystal. The dial is presented in silver opaline, offering clear legibility for its numerous indications. The case is water-resistant to 30 meters.
As a split-seconds perpetual calendar, the reference 5004 appeals to collectors who value both intricate mechanical solutions and classical design. Its production run from 1996 to 2012 saw various dial and case material iterations, though platinum was a prominent offering. The integration of two major complications in a relatively compact case underscores its appeal within the realm of high-end watch collecting.
Of course it would be fantastic if it becomes more distinguished over time. I think it is a very well-executed watch and it wears comfortably and it is very practical with the dual complication. I feel that it might make sense to get both the A references now that they are discontinued. (Well, technically 3 A including the LCFC one but that is impossible except for the lucky 2 guys on PPro.)
Special, with a cool combination of complications, with a young, fresh and daring look, short life... It has all to become a legend, while it already is one of the coolest Patek. Best, Nicolas
At least not in the UK. There are many of the white dials available at considerable discounts. My own AD has two right now and cannot shift them. For some reason they have not been well received here. I like the watch but not keen on the bracelet, a personal taste of course. I don’t think the steel or discontinuation will necessarily have an affect on the price in the future but who knows.
Hype is all in the Nautilus for now... I agree the bracelet is what turns most away. It is a great watch regardless!
I was hoping Patek would release just the chronograph complication version without the AC in an automatic movement similar to the 5980a. That would be a home run. Now that the 5980a has been discontinued, hopefully a replacement for this reference 5980 would be introduced soon. Personally I don’t need the extra complication of the AC and the PR. My Perpetual Calendar will do the trick. Perhaps the above is the reason why the 5960a is not as popular as the Nautilus 5980. But I may be mistaken.
This is why I ordered the black dial to complete the duo
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