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Miles_151's post from 2018 offers a candid and passionate critique of Patek Philippe's direction, particularly concerning the 5270P Salmon dial release. This discussion remains highly relevant for collectors interested in how brand heritage, market trends, and collector sentiment intersect in the luxury watch world. Miles_151's insights provide a valuable historical perspective on Patek Philippe's strategic shifts and their impact on long-time enthusiasts.
The Patek Philippe Grand Complications reference 5270 is a perpetual calendar chronograph, succeeding the highly regarded reference 5970. It represents a significant evolution in Patek Philippe's grand complications lineup, being the first perpetual calendar chronograph to feature an in-house developed movement. This transition from a modified Nouvelle Lemania base caliber to a fully integrated Patek Philippe movement marks a notable advancement in the brand's technical independence and horological prowess. The 5270 maintains the classic aesthetic of its predecessors while introducing subtle design refinements.
The reference 5270 is housed in a 41 mm case, available in 18k white gold, rose gold, or yellow gold. The case design is characterized by a concave bezel and two-tier lugs, contributing to its distinctive profile. It is powered by the manual-winding caliber CH 29-535 PS Q, an integrated chronograph movement with a perpetual calendar mechanism. This movement offers a power reserve of approximately 55 hours and is protected by a sapphire crystal, ensuring water resistance up to 30 meters.
This reference appeals to collectors seeking a modern interpretation of a classic grand complication from Patek Philippe. Its in-house movement and refined case details distinguish it within the brand's offerings. Multiple dial variants have been produced, including silver, blue, and opaline, providing collectors with a range of aesthetic choices. The 5270 continues the tradition of Patek Philippe's perpetual calendar chronographs, offering a blend of technical sophistication and traditional design.
theare are no ideas . patek with 5970 e 5070 has arrived at the top . great disappointement for 40th collection , the 5711P ( few pieces only for boutique ) already existed and it was perfect . today only bad copies .
the not so perfect symmetry and the two port holes on the 5270 are less than ideal. Re your comments on Patek: I also agree. I do understand that they have a business to run and need to make the most out of it, but certain behaviours are going to be counter-productive in the long term.
Especially in these difficult times. M.
I feel for you but that is the nature of business, profit making. If any consolation you still have a nice watch
Your post reminded me of a time when i was in my late-20s. I had some money and it was burning a hole in my pocket. I went along to a Porsche dealership and had a test drive in a 911. It was the 993 version. The test drive was just incredible. The road holding....the acceleration....just the feel of it. Today, the 993 is slower than my Golf. It is technically inferior to most modern cars and infinitely inferior to the modern Porsche on essentiallyevery technical level. Yet, in garage there is a
I just really don’t want to fall out of love with Patek for the very same reasons I did Rolex and then what will I do???? I will have to speak to the good lady and children again 😉 M.
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