Patek Philippe 5270: Collecting Path Guide
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Patek Philippe 5270: Collecting Path Guide

By afaleh · Apr 20, 2021 · 30 replies
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In a candid post, afaleh, a long-time lurker and avid collector, shares his deeply personal struggle with the 'agony of choosing a collecting path.' His dilemma centers on the highly coveted Patek Philippe Ref. 5270P with its salmon dial, a piece he desires but would necessitate a significant consolidation of his diverse collection. This thread offers a rare glimpse into the emotional and strategic considerations faced by seasoned collectors when pursuing a true grail.

Hello fellow watch crazies, long time listener etc

I seldom post as I never feel I have much to add to the forums, but really do enjoy reading these and other forums, and as I have been struggling with a collecting dilema I thought this might be the best time to share and get feedback from the community.

I started collecting watches about 15 years ago, I am not a very wealthy man but I am fortunate enough to be able to save enough to buy myself a nice watch or two per year, and have successfully obtained many of my grail pieces . The usual process is find out about a watch I must have, set personal goals and save for a while, buy something nice for the wife, and finally get the watch I wanted. During these years I explored many different brands, bought and traded many watches, and found out I am cursed with have a diverse taste for horology of all types almost. I am the type of collector who can delve into the history of Panerai and enjoy a 47MM PAM127 as much as appreciate a fine Calatrava, hence my current predicament.

I, like many, have fallen in love with the 5270P and its glorious salmon dial. The history of the grand complication, the gorgeous case and overall design, the finishing of the movement, its just an object of desire that has occupied my mind since its release. Unfortunately, also like many, I can't justify just buying the watch outright and would have to release quite a few pieces from my collection before I could go through with the purchase.

So I split my collection into two parts, the first are watches that I absolutely can't bring myself to ever part with, I enjoy these immensely and none of them competes with the 5270 in anyway so no redundancy anyway:






So the Nautilus, ALS Double Split,  FP Journe Cronometre Optimum, IWC Perpetual Calendar in RG, blue Sky Dweller, LE Speedy, PO, JLC Extreme Lab II, PAM 127 and Cali, AP ROO, and the Oris beater are staying put.

I am adding to those the blue Aquanaut in WG, JLC Duometre chrono in platinum with the platinum dial, and the new Cartier Santos skeleton this year for sure and as has been planned and saved for.







Now for the second part of the collection, these watches are fantastic but I could see myself trading them all in plus a bit of cash for the 5270p (question is, should I?)









All are great watches, but I think I would miss the Patek 5170P. Its such a gorgeous watch, and in fact might be more beutifull than the 5270P in absolute terms, the 5270P would add diversity and that gorgeous salmon dial in addition to entry into the elite Patek perpetual calendar chronograph club. Then again each one of these watches has tremendous history and some are rare LE models such as the green Portugueser and ceramic PAM, even the pilot Heritage and LE Seiko Prospex would be missed dearly, so much diverse and wonderfull history and design would have to be sacrificed. 

Then again, that salmon dial\!

And on it goes, my mind ever occupied with the most difficult decision in my modest collecting career and hence my first post in ages, I would very much like to hear the thoughts of fellow collectors especially those who have made the jump to the 5270P.








About the Patek Philippe Chronograph Ref. 5170

The Chronograph reference 5170, introduced in 2010, marked a significant development for Patek Philippe as it was the first serially produced chronograph to feature a fully in-house manufactured movement. This reference succeeded the reference 5070, transitioning from a Lemania-based caliber to a proprietary design, underscoring the brand's commitment to integrated manufacturing for its complications. It represents a modern interpretation of a classic chronograph layout within the Patek Philippe catalog.

The reference 5170 features a case measuring 39.4 mm in diameter and 10.9 mm in thickness, available in 18k white, rose, or yellow gold. It is equipped with the manual-winding caliber CH 29-535 PS, which offers a power reserve of 65 hours. The watch is fitted with a sapphire crystal and is water-resistant to 30 meters. The movement is visible through a sapphire case back, showcasing its intricate finishing.

This reference appeals to collectors seeking a contemporary Patek Philippe chronograph with an in-house movement. Early variants, such as the yellow gold reference 5170J-001, featured a pulsometer scale, which was later replaced by a minute track on subsequent iterations. The various metal options and dial configurations provide distinct aesthetic choices for collectors, reflecting different periods of its production run.

Specifications

Caliber
CH 29-535 PS
Case
18k White Gold, Rose Gold, or Yellow Gold
Diameter
39.4 mm
Dial
Silver, Black, or Opaline
Water Resist.
30m
Crystal
Sapphire

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LiftAngle51
Apr 20, 2021

Member since 2008 and waited to post for the first time in 2021. Where is the time? πŸ˜‰ SA, very wealthy place. Super cars, luxury watches, culture, oil. So there are also people who have a normal income. For me it doesn’t matter, poor - rich, as long watches are the main subject of all. Watches and friendship.

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Credor
Apr 20, 2021

A magnificent collection you have. It is diverse yet not overly so. It is obvious a lot of though has went into your collection. I absolutely love it. Congratulations on your wonderful collection and great taste. As for the decision that you need to make, I would sell all the pieces from part two except for the 5170p and continue saving for the 5270p until you can make the purchase.

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mahesh
Apr 20, 2021

Any Patek grand complication is worth it. Best, Mahesh.,

AF
afaleh
Apr 20, 2021

SA is just like any other place, there are those who have and those who don't. I consider myself fortunate.

AF
afaleh
Apr 20, 2021

yes every watch was chosen carefully and after much contemplation and saving through hard work. They are all dear to me, but then again the 5270P is a true end game watch

JE
jenjames
Apr 20, 2021

Currently PP’s grand complications such as 5270 are soft and easy to come by due to everyone are after the nautilus. Good luck n keep us posted. Ramadan Kareem πŸŒ™

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