Patek Philippe 5230 New York World Time vs. 5131
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Patek Philippe 5230 New York World Time vs. 5131

By GLau · Oct 13, 2017 · 85 replies
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GLau introduces a Patek Philippe Ref. 5230 New York World Time, shared by a 'shy' PuristS friend, and praises its understated elegance and discrete New York skyline motif. The post invites community comparison between the 5230 and the 5131 enamel map dials, particularly regarding aesthetics and relative value.

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I think it is a very lovely piece ! Pure Patek DNA in that it exudes understated elegance!

His comments regarding this reference are:
"It’s a very elegant watch. I think the dial is better than the 5131 enamel maps because the blue New York skyline motif is more discrete. A gentleman’s worldtimer. Case design is very nice too. Perfect for a business suit or even in jeans. No real cons."

High praises from a Patek VIP !

What do you guys think ? How does it compare to 5131s in terms of the dial and value relative to 5131 ?

Cheers,

Gordon















About the Patek Philippe Ref. 5131

The Patek Philippe Complications reference 5131 is a World Time model, distinguished by its cloisonné enamel dial depicting a map of the world. This reference is part of a series that showcases Patek Philippe's expertise in both horological complications and traditional decorative arts, offering a functional travel watch with significant aesthetic appeal. It represents a continuation of the brand's long-standing tradition of producing World Time watches, updated with contemporary design elements and a self-winding movement. The 5131 is recognized for its intricate dial work, which varies depending on the specific metal and region depicted.

The watch features a 39.5mm case, available in various precious metals, housing the self-winding Caliber 240 HU. This movement provides a power reserve of 48 hours and drives the World Time complication, allowing the wearer to simultaneously view the time in 24 different time zones. The case is fitted with a sapphire crystal, ensuring durability and clear visibility of the detailed dial. Water resistance is rated at 30 meters, suitable for everyday wear. The fixed bezel frames the intricate dial, contributing to the watch's refined profile.

As a World Time model with a cloisonné dial, the 5131 appeals to collectors who appreciate both technical sophistication and artisanal craftsmanship. Its limited production and the unique hand-finished nature of each dial contribute to its desirability within the secondary market. The reference fits into Patek Philippe's Complications collection as a high-end travel watch, offering a distinctive alternative to more traditional time-only or chronograph models. Variants typically involve different precious metal cases and corresponding enamel map depictions.

Specifications

Caliber
Cal.240 HU
Case
yellow gold
Diameter
39.5mm
Dial
blue
Water Resist.
30m
Crystal
Sapphire

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amanico
Oct 13, 2017

As for the value, the market will tell. It is a bit too soon, I think. But there is some room for both, I am sure of that. Best, Nicolas

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GLau
Oct 13, 2017

So if you were living in the US, you would get one ? Cheers, Gordon Cheers, Gordon

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Pretty Boy
Oct 13, 2017

I would even prefer a standard 5230G or R over this iteration which I find a bit kitschy. Best, Volker

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Alkiro1
Oct 13, 2017

I particularly love the hour hand which makes me think to a skyscraper which perfectly matches the context of the NY dial. Best wishes Alkiro

CL
Clueless_Collector
Oct 13, 2017

but I feel it’s hard to compare this with the enamel dial WT, each has its merits. Very lucky and well heeled owners will have both 😬 Rgds Raymond

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Mark in Paris
Oct 13, 2017

Well, about your question, they are so different watches. I think it comes to what one wants but hard to find elements to compare. Your friend has made an excellent move as it is a beautiful watch and interesting model regarding the context and colors used. He has obviously expressed his preference for the 5230G NYC and that's a great catch. However, I personally can't compare both references you mention. Indeed, on the one hand you have an exceptional enamel work with a more classical case, on

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