Patek Philippe 5227R vs 5146P Comparison
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Patek Philippe 5227R vs 5146P Comparison

By glimmer · Jan 6, 2018 · 17 replies
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glimmer shares his experience visiting an Authorized Dealer to compare the Patek Philippe Ref. 5227 and Ref. 5146, seeking clarity for his next acquisition. His post captures the dilemma many collectors face when choosing between iconic references, highlighting the subtle differences in dial aesthetics and case design. This article delves into his impressions and the community's diverse recommendations.

To try out the 5227 and 5146. I was hoping they had the WG versions but unfortunately only Rose for the 5227 and Platinum for the 5146. I am thinking of either “upgrading” my 5107 to the 5227 black dial and buying a WG Daytona or to get a 5146G Slate. I thought a visit to the AD would clear up my mind but it only served to confuse me more...sad The 5146P is absolutely gorgeous but the 5227R felt like there was too much “space”on the dial, however, I really love the curvaceous case and lugs and really wonder how this would look in the black dial.

Anyway I still have a self imposed deadline of a few months before my next birthday to decide. A few shots to commemorate my visit.





















About the Patek Philippe Patek Philippe 5146/1J-001 Ref. 5146

The Patek Philippe Annual Calendar Moon Phases reference 5146, introduced in 2005, represents a significant offering in the brand's annual calendar complication lineage. This reference succeeded the popular 5035 and 5036 models, refining the aesthetic and technical presentation of the annual calendar with moon phases. It is characterized by its balanced dial layout, integrating day, date, month, moon phase, and power reserve indications in a legible and harmonious arrangement. The 5146 was produced in various precious metals, establishing itself as a core model within Patek Philippe's complicated watch collection for many years.

This particular iteration of the 5146 is presented in an 18k yellow gold case, measuring 39mm in diameter. It houses the self-winding Patek Philippe Caliber 324 S IRM QA LU, a movement known for its reliability and precision, visible through a sapphire crystal case back. The movement provides a power reserve of approximately 45 hours. A domed sapphire crystal protects the dial, and the watch is water-resistant to 30 meters, suitable for everyday wear but not for swimming or diving.

The reference 5146 appeals to collectors seeking a sophisticated daily wearable complication from Patek Philippe. Its annual calendar mechanism requires adjustment only once a year, at the end of February, offering practical convenience. The model was available with several dial variations and case materials throughout its production run, which concluded around 2020. The yellow gold variant with a silvery opaline dial offers a classic and understated presentation, aligning with traditional Patek Philippe aesthetics.

Specifications

Caliber
Cal.324 S IRM QA LU
Case
18k Yellow Gold
Diameter
39mm
Dial
Silvery opaline
Water Resist.
30m
Crystal
Sapphire

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geross
Jan 6, 2018

Since you own already a 5107 Calatrava to upgrade would be not to my liking. You have good value with the 5107 its a screw down crown , so water resistance would be better. Unless you want to add a Calatrava to your collection. My opinion. Cheers! Geross.

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roberto1
Jan 6, 2018

Let me throw few options in the mix. I prefer 5196 in white gold. It's slimmer and less expensive with much more interesting dial with the vertical grain pattern( unfortunately hard to see in pictures) Definitely worth seeing if you don't mind manual wind and closed back. It's also 37mm instead of 39mm Other option would be 5146 in white gold with Tiffany dial. You'll have to go to Tiffany that sells Patek but price will not vary and you'll have much more special dial. There's no doubt that the

GL
glimmer
Jan 6, 2018

And good advice. Thank you for your input.

GL
glimmer
Jan 6, 2018

I would have three PP’s in my collection (5711, 5107) Perhaps having those three would give me time to consider whether I want to keep all or sell the 5107 in favor of a WG Daytona.

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5980
Jan 6, 2018

I find myself swimming in the combination of dial layout and color. Perhaps a bit monotonous?? Having written that, I really love Roberto’s suggestions. The WG metal and dial works better IMO, and the Tiffany dial AC offers a little something special if you’re so inclined

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GreatPilot@me.com
Jan 6, 2018

I purchased my 5227 a month ago and love it. It wears perfectly at 39mm and is considered an officers watch compete with the Hunter case back. The case is very well done with curved lugs. The dial is very deep black and is unbelievable with the applied gold hour markers and WG long thin hands. At the price difference of the two watches and possible price point you may negotiate, if you want a dress watch that is classy buy the 5227 blac dial, it is a completely different watch than the RG or whi

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