
I've had a 5164a for quite a while now. At the beginning, I loved that watch. I still like it and I still wear it, but the burning love has disappeared. It's not in my Top 5 of watches I own anymore and much cheaper watches are now higher in my ranking. So I started asking myself, if I should keep a

The Chronograph reference 5170, introduced in 2010, marked a significant development for Patek Philippe as it was the first serially produced chronograph to feature a fully in-house manufactured movement. This reference succeeded the reference 5070, transitioning from a Lemania-based caliber to a proprietary design, underscoring the brand's commitment to integrated manufacturing for its complications. It represents a modern interpretation of a classic chronograph layout within the Patek Philippe catalog.
The reference 5170 features a case measuring 39.4 mm in diameter and 10.9 mm in thickness, available in 18k white, rose, or yellow gold. It is equipped with the manual-winding caliber CH 29-535 PS, which offers a power reserve of 65 hours. The watch is fitted with a sapphire crystal and is water-resistant to 30 meters. The movement is visible through a sapphire case back, showcasing its intricate finishing.
This reference appeals to collectors seeking a contemporary Patek Philippe chronograph with an in-house movement. Early variants, such as the yellow gold reference 5170J-001, featured a pulsometer scale, which was later replaced by a minute track on subsequent iterations. The various metal options and dial configurations provide distinct aesthetic choices for collectors, reflecting different periods of its production run.
A nice predicament you're in! If it were me, I'd take steps to get the 5170G. I think the dial is very seductive and has more depth than often comes across in photos thanks to the Breguet numerals. Also, that movement! A lot of technical advancements that give it a special place in the pantheon of Patek chronos, and the reset action in particular is second-to-none. I'd hate to speculate on resale value. Good luck with your choice! Regards, Brandon
and probably even faster But I confess I do not like the aquanaut
I've never been fond of the Aquanaut line...but I think you're on the right path with your reasoning. If you've fallen out of love, then why tie up so much money in a piece you no longer enjoy or wear? View the money "lost" on the trade as a "sunk cost", so to speak. Yes, there's a danger that something similar could happen with the 5170 based on your high expectations, but the classic nature of the 5170 would (to me) make it more likely a keeper. Cheers, John
Do you want to go from a sports watch to a dress watch? What else is in your collection? As you've said, it's more money so your expectations will be higher. If it was me, I think a 5990 would be a nice progression from the 5164. You keep the travel time, get a chrono and save some money.
Looking back at my watch history, more classic watches are more likely to be keepers, than experiments. Also, if my love for a watch grew slowely, it was more likely to be a keeper, than a watch I spontaneously fell in love with. I can't be sure, but the probability of being really satisfied on the long term should be higher for the 5170.
- I do currently have one watch on order. I don't know, when it'll be delivered. Could be next months or in half a year. It's different from both the aqua and the 5170 and I already substracted it from my available budget. - There are some watches I'm generally interested in, but there's atm only one other watch, that I actually might be interested in buying. But, I haven't seen this watch in the flesh yet and there is currently none on the market (at least not from sellers, I want to buy at). I
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