Patek Philippe 5164A vs. 5170G White Dial
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Patek Philippe 5164A vs. 5170G White Dial

By damianp · Jun 7, 2017 · 24 replies
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I've had a 5164a for quite a while now. At the beginning, I loved that watch. I still like it and I still wear it, but the burning love has disappeared. It's not in my Top 5 of watches I own anymore and much cheaper watches are now higher in my ranking. So I started asking myself, if I should keep a

I've had a 5164a for quite a while now. At the beginning, I loved that watch. I still like it and I still wear it, but the burning love has disappeared. It's not in my Top 5 of watches I own anymore and much cheaper watches are now higher in my ranking. So I started asking myself, if I should keep a watch that I like, but that has a much lower personal value to me compared to its actual value. I wouldn't have expected this. I thought, that I would be less willing to resell such an expensive watch, than reselling a cheaper one, because of the substantial money I spend for it. It's the other way around now. Because of the high price, I've got much higher expectations now, which the watch does not fulfill at the moment. And I don't know, whether the love will come back.

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I'm thinking about buying a 5170 for 2 years now. The interest in that watch did not disappear. I prefered the white and red gold versions with the white dials. The red gold doesn't fit into my collection, though, because it's too close to another watch I own. I was waiting for the release of the 5170p aswell. Now, that I have seen it, I can say, that I like it, but that it is not the right watch for me. So I do know now, that if I ever get a 5170, it'll be a 5170g with the white dial.

Having both watches is no option, so the question is now: should I sell the 5164a (loosing some money) to buy a (used) 5170g? Will the 5170g afterwards suffer the same perceived fate, as the 5164, because it's even more expensive?






About the Patek Philippe Chronograph Ref. 5170

The Chronograph reference 5170, introduced in 2010, marked a significant development for Patek Philippe as it was the first serially produced chronograph to feature a fully in-house manufactured movement. This reference succeeded the reference 5070, transitioning from a Lemania-based caliber to a proprietary design, underscoring the brand's commitment to integrated manufacturing for its complications. It represents a modern interpretation of a classic chronograph layout within the Patek Philippe catalog.

The reference 5170 features a case measuring 39.4 mm in diameter and 10.9 mm in thickness, available in 18k white, rose, or yellow gold. It is equipped with the manual-winding caliber CH 29-535 PS, which offers a power reserve of 65 hours. The watch is fitted with a sapphire crystal and is water-resistant to 30 meters. The movement is visible through a sapphire case back, showcasing its intricate finishing.

This reference appeals to collectors seeking a contemporary Patek Philippe chronograph with an in-house movement. Early variants, such as the yellow gold reference 5170J-001, featured a pulsometer scale, which was later replaced by a minute track on subsequent iterations. The various metal options and dial configurations provide distinct aesthetic choices for collectors, reflecting different periods of its production run.

Specifications

Caliber
CH 29-535 PS
Case
18k White Gold, Rose Gold, or Yellow Gold
Diameter
39.4 mm
Dial
Silver, Black, or Opaline
Water Resist.
30m
Crystal
Sapphire
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brandon1
Jun 7, 2017

A nice predicament you're in! If it were me, I'd take steps to get the 5170G. I think the dial is very seductive and has more depth than often comes across in photos thanks to the Breguet numerals. Also, that movement! A lot of technical advancements that give it a special place in the pantheon of Patek chronos, and the reset action in particular is second-to-none. I'd hate to speculate on resale value. Good luck with your choice! Regards, Brandon

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Bruno.M1
Jun 7, 2017

and probably even faster But I confess I do not like the aquanaut

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vitalsigns
Jun 7, 2017

I've never been fond of the Aquanaut line...but I think you're on the right path with your reasoning. If you've fallen out of love, then why tie up so much money in a piece you no longer enjoy or wear? View the money "lost" on the trade as a "sunk cost", so to speak. Yes, there's a danger that something similar could happen with the 5170 based on your high expectations, but the classic nature of the 5170 would (to me) make it more likely a keeper. Cheers, John

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RussW
Jun 7, 2017

Do you want to go from a sports watch to a dress watch? What else is in your collection? As you've said, it's more money so your expectations will be higher. If it was me, I think a 5990 would be a nice progression from the 5164. You keep the travel time, get a chrono and save some money.

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damianp
Jun 7, 2017

Looking back at my watch history, more classic watches are more likely to be keepers, than experiments. Also, if my love for a watch grew slowely, it was more likely to be a keeper, than a watch I spontaneously fell in love with. I can't be sure, but the probability of being really satisfied on the long term should be higher for the 5170.

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damianp
Jun 7, 2017

- I do currently have one watch on order. I don't know, when it'll be delivered. Could be next months or in half a year. It's different from both the aqua and the 5170 and I already substracted it from my available budget. - There are some watches I'm generally interested in, but there's atm only one other watch, that I actually might be interested in buying. But, I haven't seen this watch in the flesh yet and there is currently none on the market (at least not from sellers, I want to buy at). I

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