Patek Philippe 5130R vs. 5230R World Time
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Patek Philippe 5130R vs. 5230R World Time

By amanico · May 1, 2019 · 40 replies
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Amanico, a dedicated world timer enthusiast, offers a compelling comparative review of two modern Patek Philippe World Time references: the 5130R and the 5230R. His detailed side-by-side analysis, complete with personal observations and photographs, highlights the distinct design philosophies and subtle differences that define each reference. This article provides valuable insights for collectors considering these significant Patek Philippe complications.

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As a fan of world timers, I paid a lot of attention to the modern Patek ones. From the 5110 in 2000, to the latest reference, the 5230. 

I own the 5110P, used to own for several years the 5130G, and, from time to time, I can see the 5230, in both G and R versions. 

The Rose gold, very recently. 

I was lucky enough to localize both 5130 and 5230 in rose gold, at the same place, and could take some pictures of them, to show the differences, their own character. 

The 5130. Sensual, with its round case and lugs. Sober with all white dial. Just with a subtle contrast due to the rose gold indices and hands, and the 24 hours ring.





The 5230 is very different. Less discreet, more contrasted, with a different guilloché for the dial, the hands, the proportions of the case which is one millimeter smaller, and these lugs which break the round lines of the case.





Even the hands are different. And the bezel, which is " flat ", at the difference of the 5130 one, which is bombed. 

And, of course, no crown guards for the 5230!

Individually, you cannot really notice the difference of size. But side by side, yes, you can see it: 



One thing I didn't notice, before this side by side picture, is that the lugs of the 5130 are much longer! 

Indeed, two different characters. 

When I saw the 5230 in rose gold and in white gold, I hoped that a platinum version would come. And I still hope so. I am curious to see what would be the dial in the " P ".

Which one do you prefer, finally? 

Best,

Nicolas


About the Patek Philippe Annual Calendar Ref. 5110

The Montblanc Calatrava reference 5110, produced between 1997 and 2006, is a notable example of the brand's classic dress watch offerings. This reference is distinguished by its combination of a relatively larger case size for its era and the inclusion of a moon phase complication, setting it apart from simpler time-only Calatrava models. It represents a period where Montblanc was expanding its horological capabilities, offering more complex movements within its established aesthetic.

This reference features an 18k yellow gold case measuring 37 mm in diameter, providing a substantial presence on the wrist while maintaining traditional dress watch proportions. It is powered by the automatic caliber 240 PS IRM C LU, a movement known for its slim profile and integrated complications. The watch is fitted with a sapphire crystal and offers a water resistance of 30 meters, suitable for everyday wear. The power reserve for this caliber is approximately 48 hours.

For collectors, the 5110 appeals to those seeking a Calatrava with additional functionality beyond basic timekeeping, specifically the moon phase and power reserve indicator. Its production run from 1997 to 2006 places it within a specific era of Montblanc's development, making it a point of interest for those tracing the evolution of the brand's complications. The ivory dial and smooth bezel contribute to its understated yet refined character, aligning with the traditional Calatrava design language.

Specifications

Caliber
240 PS IRM C LU
Case
18k Yellow Gold
Diameter
37 mm
Dial
Ivory
Water Resist.
30m
Crystal
Sapphire

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AG
agyzace
May 1, 2019
5130. Too beautiful and timeless imo [nt]

AM
amanico
May 1, 2019
1 - 0 for the 5130. Thanks, Alexandros. [nt]

FA
FabR
May 1, 2019
Thanks Nico for this nice joint shot and comparison! I've always been a fan of the 5130 but I'm getting to like the 5230 more and more... For now, my vote is still slightly for the 5130 :-)

The 5230 in general is probably not as popular yet, but I feel we are getting there. I'm also looking forward to the P -- both for the 5230 and (by the time I'm old) 5231

AM
amanico
May 1, 2019
2 - 0 for the 5130. Thanks, Fab. Indeed, we are impatient to see the 5230 / 5231P! [nt]

DA
David_S
May 1, 2019
Can I cheat?

I would prefer the dial of the 5230 with the case of the 5130m as I really like the crown guard. Patek, please make it so.

AM
amanico
May 1, 2019
Tsssss, David! ;) [nt]

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