Patek Philippe 5105P-001: Reference Guide
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Patek Philippe 5105P-001: Reference Guide

By quattro · May 4, 2025 · 33 replies
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Emmanuel, known as 'quattro' on WatchProSite, delves into the Patek Philippe Ref. 5105P-001, a limited edition timepiece created in 2006 to commemorate the reopening of Patek Philippe's historic Geneva salon. His insightful post highlights this often-overlooked masterpiece, tracing its lineage back to the 1930s Ref. 492 and exploring its unique characteristics, including its vintage caliber and the fascinating story behind its production.

Created in 2006 to celebrate the reopening of Patek Phillipe’s historical salon in the heart of Geneva after renovation, the ref. 5105P-001 (or simply 5105) is a modern interpretation of and tribute to the ref. 492 from the 1930s.

A totally overlooked masterpiece, about which amanico shared his thoughts and beautiful photos three years ago, but which has rarely been mentioned on this site.

The platinum case measures 35 x 46 mm and the 100 pieces of this limited edition are powered by some vintage examples of calibre 9-90, which are said to have been discovered in an old wooden chest before the watchmaking department moved to Plan-les-Ouates in 1996 (this story is mentioned by DCC in his thread dedicated to The Patek Philippe shaped calibers).

Furthermore, the tooling for the manufacturing of the case were discarded so Patek Phillipe would never remake this case shape again.

Best, Emmanuel


A/ REF. 5105P-001













































credit: @ponti_collection (1), watches.de (2-6), loupe this (7-13), sotheby's (14) & Phillips (15-17)


B/ THE SOURCE OF INSPIRATION: REF. 492

Case dimensions: 23 x 43 mm. Calibre 9-90

1/ Yellow gold example with Breguet numerals from 1937









credit: onbehalf 


2/ Steel example with Roman numerals from 1937

credit: christie's


3/ Pink gold example with Roman numerals retailed by Hausmann in 1938

credit: sotheby's


4/ Yellow gold example with pink dial and Roman numerals from 1937

credit: christie's


5/ Two yellow gold examples with pink dial and Roman numerals from 1938-1939
























credit: @watchcollector7 (1) & auctionet

About the Patek Philippe Grand Complications Ref. 1938

The Patek Philippe Reference 1938 is a notable example of the brand's early rectangular timepieces, distinguished by its Art Deco design influences. While not as widely recognized as some later models, it represents a period of design exploration for Patek Philippe, particularly in non-circular case forms. Its aesthetic draws inspiration from earlier references such as the 514, 524, and 520, establishing a lineage of design principles that would evolve in subsequent collections. This reference is a testament to the brand's commitment to both horological precision and artistic expression during the interwar period.

This particular reference features a 30mm case crafted from a combination of platinum and rose gold, a sophisticated material pairing that enhances its visual appeal. It houses a manual-wind movement, specifically the 10''' lever escapement caliber, which was a common and reliable mechanism for its era. The dial is characterized by its three-color scheme, adding to the watch's distinctive Art Deco character. The fixed bezel integrates seamlessly with the case design, maintaining the watch's streamlined profile.

For collectors, the Reference 1938 offers insight into Patek Philippe's design trajectory in the early 20th century. Its unique case material combination and three-color dial make it a distinctive piece for those interested in the brand's historical design language. While it predates the more complex complications seen in later Patek Philippe watches, its aesthetic and mechanical integrity appeal to collectors focused on vintage design and the foundational elements of the brand's heritage.

Specifications

Caliber
10''' lever escapement
Case
Platinum and rose gold
Diameter
30mm
Dial
Three-color

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AU
AuHavrePro
May 4, 2025

Breguet numerals are my perpetual preference πŸ˜‰πŸ€Œ

KM
KMII
May 4, 2025

Fabulous indeed πŸ˜ŠπŸ‘πŸ» Thanks for sharing and for the comparison to the original πŸ™πŸ»

QU
quattro
May 4, 2025

and enjoy your Sunday. Best, Emmanuel

QU
quattro
May 4, 2025

But both are very nice. Have a great Sunday. Best, Emmanuel

QU
quattro
May 4, 2025

I think I would be very much tempted. It would be such a wonderful opportunity to have a modern Patek deeply rooted into the past with a genuine calibre from the 50s: a pure dream. Maybe someday, who knows? Enjoy your Sunday. Cheers, Emmanuel

KM
KMII
May 4, 2025

These probably don’t change hands that often πŸ˜‰

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