Patek Philippe 5070R vs 5711/1A: The Collector's Choice
Discussion

Patek Philippe 5070R vs 5711/1A: The Collector's Choice

By Bruno.M1 · Dec 7, 2019 · 90 replies
Bruno.M1
WPS member · Patek Philippe forum
90 replies25614 views3 photos
f 𝕏 in 💬 🔗

Bruno.M1 initiates a compelling debate, asking collectors to choose between two highly coveted Patek Philippe references: the 5070R chronograph and the 5711/1A Nautilus. This discussion provides valuable insights into the differing philosophies of watch collecting, weighing factors like market value, aesthetic preference, and horological significance. Readers gain perspective on how seasoned enthusiasts evaluate such difficult choices within a collection.

90 collectors discussing this on the WatchProSite forumJoin the Conversation →
Just having a discussion and I want to know which of these you would keep. So you own both and want to sell one.


  • Would you KEEP the 5070R










  • or would you keep the 5711/a






btw, a poll function on this site would be welcome smile

About the Patek Philippe Ref. 5070

The Patek Philippe reference 5070, part of the Complications collection, marked a significant return for the brand to large-format chronographs. Introduced in 1998, it was the first non-perpetual calendar chronograph produced by Patek Philippe since the reference 1463, which ceased production in the early 1960s. Its design drew inspiration from a unique Patek Philippe aviator's watch from the 1940s, characterized by its prominent case and dial layout, yet reinterpreted for a contemporary audience. This reference established a new aesthetic direction for the brand's chronographs, moving towards more substantial case dimensions.

The watch features a 42mm case, initially offered in 18k yellow gold, housing the manual-winding Caliber CH 27-70. This movement, based on a Nouvelle Lémania ébauche, was extensively finished and modified by Patek Philippe, meeting the brand's stringent quality standards. It provides a power reserve of approximately 55 hours. The dial, in this specific configuration, is black, protected by a sapphire crystal, and the watch is water-resistant to 30 meters. The fixed bezel frames the dial, and the watch is typically fitted with a leather strap.

Reference 5070 appeals to collectors interested in modern Patek Philippe chronographs that combine traditional movement architecture with a more contemporary case size. Its limited production run and the subsequent introduction of variants in other precious metals contribute to its collectibility. The reference represents a distinct period in Patek Philippe's chronograph history, bridging vintage inspirations with a new era of larger watch designs.

Specifications

Caliber
Cal.CH 27-70
Case
18k yellow gold
Diameter
42mm
Dial
black
Water Resist.
30m
Crystal
Sapphire

Key Points from the Discussion

Advertisement
The Discussion
PA
patrick_y
Dec 7, 2019
NEITHER. Must Keep Both! Sorry, my answer doesn't help! [nt]

AM
amanico
Dec 7, 2019
I would keep the 5070R. [nt]

DE
dedestexhes
Dec 7, 2019
I’ll keep the 5070 R, just timeless [nt]

GL
GLau
Dec 7, 2019
Keep 5070R and ...

sell 5711 Then with 5711 proceeds, sell 5070R and to use funds from selling both pieces to buy a 5070P

LA
lascases
Dec 7, 2019
Of course 5070, the other is mass produced entry level [nt]

CA
CastorKrieg
Dec 13, 2019
How is 5711 mass-produced?

The current prices are a result of supply shortage vs. demand

Available on the marketplace

Continue the conversation

This thread is active on the Patek Philippe forum with 90 replies. Share your knowledge with fellow collectors.

Join the Discussion →