Patek Philippe 5070 Family Comparison
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Patek Philippe 5070 Family Comparison

By amanico · Jun 11, 2012 · 69 replies
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Amanico presents a comprehensive comparison of the entire Patek Philippe Ref. 5070 family, showcasing the distinct characteristics of the J (yellow gold), R (rose gold), G (white gold), and P (platinum) models. This article delves into the aesthetic nuances and collector appeal of each reference, offering valuable insights for enthusiasts of this iconic chronograph.

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As a starter, I posted this family picture. From left to right: J, R, G, P.



Let's now focus on each of them.

As a white metal fan, I naturally hesitated between two of these Fabulous Four, the White Gold or the Platinum:



I ended with the G, and I am very happy with it, even if I absolutely love blue dials and platinum cases, but the asked premium was prohibitive for me.

1/ The G is far from being a bad choice.

Among the four, it is certainly the most discrete, understated, and somehow versatile, as you can wear it in any circumstances, formal or dressy.

Cold but refined.

The silver dial will allow you to marry it with every color of your shirts or suits, without any problem, which is not the case with the P and its blue dial, which may lead to some " fautes de gout ".









The monochromatic view on the case back is another pleasant detail:



Well, you know my feeling about it, I already wrote several times on that reference.

2/ The P adds a sporty dimension to the 5070:

If you compare the P and the G, putting them side by side, the P is immediately more " eye catcher ".

The contrast between the white case and the blue dial is very appealing, a combination which works very well, naturally.

I would say that the P is more dynamic than the G, younger, maybe, less discrete certainly, with a major asset on the white gold case, or maybe two, if I think about it, again.

First, the case is not rodhied, like on the white gold, which is a con for this last reference.

Then, the platinum case has more density, which you feel once on the wrist, and provides a pleasant feeling.

Here is the beast, in all its beauty:









While the case back shares the same discrete tonality with its G " brother ":



3/ The R adds warmth to the silver dial.

Rose Gold for the case, but also for the applied indexes and the hands.

Here is an interesting picture, which allows to better-than in words- undersntad the different character of the R, compared to the G:



Warm, but not inelegant. These light red accents give a lot of class to the watch.

I would even say that it is certainly the dressiest of all, the most sophisticated.

Funnily, the red gold version was the one which let me really cold, but seeing it in the flesh drove me to change my opinion on it.

Though, I prefer the white gold version, but it is my personal taste.

Some pictures are worth than a thousand words, once again:









And now, the contrasted outcome, between the movement and the case:



Not bad at all, don't you think?

4/ The J is THE revelation.

Indeed, the Yellow Gold is the one which is closer to the roots of the reference which inspired Patek Philippe for the 5070, while the R, G and P can be seen as modern interpretations, iterations.

The Reference 2512 ( picture to be credited to Christies ) :



The 5070 J, now:





A bit less warm than the rose gold, it has a strong presence, due to the association of the yellow gold case and the black dial, with the yellow gold applied indees and hands.

The J, side by side with the R:



The yellow gold has a warm aspect, quite close to the rose gold, as you can see.

If I described the J as a revelation, it is because I had to wait to see all of them together to get its real appeal, even for a no colored guy like me.

Here, Patek plays the Vintage card, clearly: This 5070 looks like a chronograph which was made in the Fifties.

Less subtle or elegant, but not less appealing. Another eye catcher, in my opinion.





CONCLUSION:

Slowly but surely, an idea comes into the mind...

Which one is the most interesting, among these 4?

The answer is without any doubt, each of them, for the reasons I mentionned, and everyone may easily find HIS 5070.

That is the easy answer, but there is a more difficult approach which can be summed in 3 words: All of them.

Getting all of them may look like a crazy idea, but it is not.

First because if you're totally fan of this Chronograph, why not considering owning all of them?

After all, there are guys who owns all the variations of the Rolex Submariner, and they are much more than the 5070.

Second reason, each of them has a distinct character, which is an excellent reason to collect them, don't you think?

Third reason, I don't see any weak element / member of the family, here. They are all equally appealing

4th and last, being crazy is as good as elegant: When I took the pictures of all of them, side by side, it came as an evidence, this is a superb quattuor.

The 5070 is the end of another era, and I am not sure the 5170 opens a more appealing adventure.

Looking forward to reading your thoughts and comments,

Best.

Nicolas

About the Patek Philippe Ref. 2512

The Patek Philippe Reference 2512 is a notable example of the brand's mid-century production, characterized by its substantial case dimensions for the era. This reference is recognized for its robust presence on the wrist, distinguishing it from many of its contemporaries which often featured more modest sizing. It represents a particular design philosophy from Patek Philippe, emphasizing a more pronounced and assertive aesthetic while maintaining the brand's commitment to horological excellence. The reference is a testament to the diverse design approaches Patek Philippe explored in the mid-20th century.

This reference typically features a manually wound movement, reflecting the common practice of the period. The case material is often yellow gold, though other precious metals may exist. Its larger diameter for the time contributes to its distinct visual impact. The crystal is generally acrylic, consistent with watches from this era, providing a clear view of the dial. The movement within would have been finished to Patek Philippe's high standards, ensuring precision and reliability.

For collectors, the Reference 2512 appeals to those seeking vintage Patek Philippe pieces with a more commanding wrist presence. Its relative rarity and distinctive proportions make it a point of interest among enthusiasts who appreciate the brand's historical output beyond its more commonly encountered models. The reference fits into the broader Patek Philippe catalog as an example of the brand's willingness to experiment with different case sizes and forms, offering a unique option for those who prefer a larger vintage watch.

Specifications

Caliber
12'''400
Case
Yellow Gold
Diameter
37 mm
Dial
Silver
Crystal
Acrylic

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Highlander65
Jun 11, 2012
Fantastic post Nicolas

Love the write up and the pictures!! What an amazing reference and one to me which is a must own for any Patek Chrono fans. I am wearing my 5070 today and seeing this post was a nice confirmation to that choice and wake up thread! My sincere best and enjoy yours like I will enjoy mine! Cheers my friend,

AM
amanico
Jun 11, 2012
Thanks for your kind words, Ken.

If you ever doubt of your Chrono, just look at it, and you will always have a smile on your face. ;) Best, Nicolas.

AR
Ares501 - Mr Green
Jun 11, 2012
My first thought was

that you are merciless man Second one was that it would be indeed very nice to own all 4 aces but nightmare aside if I'm allowed to dream I think that I'll choose revelation one at least today... Best Damjan

AM
amanico
Jun 11, 2012
Why not? For once, YG is, in my point of view, not a bad choice. ;)

IV
ivanclai
Jun 11, 2012
Fantastic write up

coupled with gorgeous pictures, thanks very much. Totally agree with you that each one of them has its own character. Obtaining the collection of 4 would be every watch lover's dream. I started off with a humble "J" becasue of the retro feel you mentioned.

AM
amanico
Jun 11, 2012
The " J " is not humble at all.

This was my last choice, things have changed... It has such a tempting Vintage look! Best, Ivan Nicolas

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