Vintage
Amanico presents a compelling comparison between two vintage legends: the Patek Philippe Ref. 3417 and the Jaeger-LeCoultre Geophysic Ref. E 168. His post delves into the nuances of these highly desirable amagnetic and chronometer-certified manual-winding watches, highlighting their distinct characters and appeal to collectors.
These 2 are legends for those who collect amagnetic and or manual winding chronometers.
Two signatures, " amagnetic " and " Chronomètre ".
Two great brands, Patek and Jaeger.
Two great references as well.
The Geophysic has the advantage of being ALSO a Chronometer, the Patek has a better decorated movement.
Both are 35 mm big.
Both are highly desirable.
The Patek Philippe Calatrava reference 3417 is notable for its antimagnetic properties, a feature less common in dress watches of its era. It represents a specific technical advancement within the Calatrava line, designed to protect the movement from magnetic fields, which could impair timekeeping accuracy. This focus on functional resilience distinguishes it from other Calatrava models primarily known for their aesthetic simplicity. The reference was produced in limited quantities, contributing to its specialized appeal.
This reference typically features a 33 mm case, often in stainless steel, though examples in yellow gold are also known. It houses the manual-winding caliber 23-300 PM, a movement specifically engineered with antimagnetic components. The PM designation indicates "Protection Magnétique." The watch is fitted with a sapphire crystal and offers a water resistance of 25 meters. The power reserve for this caliber is approximately 44 hours.
The 3417 appeals to collectors interested in Patek Philippe's technical innovations and the brand's response to specific horological challenges. Its antimagnetic construction places it in a distinct category, offering a blend of classic Calatrava design with a practical, albeit subtle, complication. Variants exist with different dial configurations, including those with radium luminous material, further diversifying its collector interest.
How did their amagnetic properties compare? Geophysic 1958 tribute has 600 gauss protection (less than the modern milgauss, but I do not know what the original rolex milgauss was, but it was not 1000 gauss either!), which I believe is same as the original. And I do not know what the Patek protection was. Can you fill in all the blanks? Thanks, Nico... And parenthetically, are small second movements somehow easier to manufacture/service than central seconds? Do you think the Patek small seconds m
especially considering that JLC one made the movements for all of the holy trinity..
And reminds me of my key objective for coming year.
They have this charm I like a lot and they are definitely models that find a nice place in a collection of both brands. Thanks for the pics Nicolas. Best, Mark
The Patek calatrava more refined and quite versatile. While the Jaeger will be more sporty and less formal not very versatile compared to the calatrava. My opinion. Best. Geross.
to own one is a real blessing. having the chance to own both is... beyond spectacular. thanks for sharing these beauties here
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