Patek Philippe 31-260 PS QL Caliber Discussion
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Patek Philippe 31-260 PS QL Caliber Discussion

By chintu · Apr 25, 2021 · 133 replies
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Chintu's incisive observation regarding the Patek Philippe caliber 31-260 PS QL, specifically its anglage, sparked a significant discussion among WatchProSite's discerning collectors. His post challenges the long-held expectations of hand-finishing in high-complication timepieces from Patek Philippe, inviting a deeper look into what defines haute horlogerie in the modern era. This article synthesizes the community's diverse perspectives on finishing, innovation, and brand perception.

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One of the editors in another forum have pointed out the absence of interior angles in the caliber 31-260 powering the 5236P. The caliber’s bridges are rounded at the edges but the expert points out that the lack of interior angles are indicative of lack of hand-finishing expected of a high price complication from Patek.

Pic from their website posted here.

Pl remove the post if it violates forum rules. I thought forumners with expertise in judging caliber finishing could give their views and hopefully more hi-res images of the caliber 31-260  can be added to this and discussed. Red arrows point to the highlighted issue wrt the interior angles ( or lack of it).




pic courtesy : quillandpad


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BigFatPauli
Apr 25, 2021
This has been discussed at length on the Canadian forum so I'll repost some of it here:

Here's the thing - we aren't talking about just any half-baked nouveau hipster brand here, we are talking about The crown-less king: Patek. Scratch that: PATEK. Scratch that: PATEK PHILIPPE. Or 'PP'. Whatever is your jam, no judgement. They are not just part of the "Holy Trinity" but the crown jewel, the show stopper, of the bunch. The one that never gets questioned if it belongs. This isn't Carreras or Domingo. No, no. This is the Pavarotti of the trio. Patek Philippe is not just considered to

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Bruno.M1
Apr 25, 2021
great post

and unfortunately I agree. And it's exactly the same reason why a 5070 is superior to a 5170 and a 5970 is more interesting than the 5270. I still love the band and the finishing is good ... but it could bet better. Interior angels are among the most difficult to make and can only be done by hand. About 3 years ago I had a lunch with Mr Gauthier, he saw a 5070 and 5170 and said exactly the same thing. Both are nice but one of the 2 will take a lot more hours to finish than the other ... And we a

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Reuven Malter
Apr 25, 2021
amazing post! thank you.

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jleno
Apr 26, 2021
The Kalpa Hebdomadaire movement is amazing, beautiful photo of it!

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@lberti
Apr 26, 2021
Thanks Bruno for sharing your thoughts and this great picture of the Parmigiani

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Credor
Apr 26, 2021
Absolutely

And not even for the looks of the watch. 5711 is quite possibly the ugliest watch out there. I really dislike the the rounded but still somewhat cornered octagon (can't decide what it wants to be) bezel , dial and sapphire crystal. The bezel is also too fat and the dial small. The bezel/dial proportions is off. I really dislike the nautilus.

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