Patek Philippe Caliber 28-28 Q SQU Comparison
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Patek Philippe Caliber 28-28 Q SQU Comparison

By quattro · Apr 17, 2026 · 41 replies
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quattro's detailed comparison of Patek Philippe's square calibers addresses critical community questions about the 28-28 Q SQU movement. This analysis is crucial for understanding the brand's approach to movement design in shaped watches. His work provides a foundational visual and technical breakdown that informs deeper discussions on horological innovation.

In my post yesterday, I said that Patek Philippe's creation of a square caliber for the Cubitus Perpetual Calendar ref. 5840P-001 earned my respect.

In the comments, several of us raised some interesting questions and doubts:

  • Isn't the 28-28 Q SQU caliber simply a 240 caliber hastily squared off?
  • Didn't Gerald Charles or Bell & Ross do a much better job with their calibers GCA11000 (Gerald Charles) and BR-CAL.389 & BR-CAL.390 (Bell & Ross)?

Well, let's take a look.


To begin with, let's answer the first question – isn't the 28-28 Q SQU caliber just a 240 caliber in disguise? – by comparing these two calibers.


CALIBER 240 SQU vs CALIBER 28-28 Q SQU

The juxtaposition of the two images clearly shows that the position of the screws and the jewels is rigorously identical: the caliber 28-28 is therefore indeed a variant of the 240.

The difference between the 28-28 and the 240 is that the bridges and the balance cock as well as the mainplate have a design of their own, giving the movement its square shape.

Rear view



Front view



Rear view encased (the watch on the left is ref. 5180/1R-001)



Front view encased




Now, let's compare the 28-28 with the 240 PS CI J LU, which is not skeletonized and is found in the Cubitus Grande Date, Day and Moon Phase ref. 5822P-001


CALIBER 240 PS CI J LU vs CALIBER 28-28 Q SQU

Of course, the basic structure is again the same, undeniably, but this allows us to better appreciate the work done to skeletonise the bridges and the mainplate.

Rear view



Front view



Rear view encased (left: ref. 5822P-001 - right: ref. 5840P-001)

For me here, even though the 28-28 is based on the 240 caliber, the transformation work is clearly apparent and makes a real difference.



Front view encased



Let us now turn to the comparison between the 28-28 and the GCA11000 caliber which equips the Masterlink Perpetual Calendar Sapphire Dial by Gerald Charles.

NB: the Masterlink has an insane ref. number: ML11.0-TNBR-TNSB-SP31PS-TNDP ;-)


CALIBER GCA11000 vs CALIBER 28-28 Q SQU

Aesthetically, I personally tend to prefer the Gerald Charles caliber because the openwork aesthetic has never been my taste.

But I don't find it very appealing either, to be honest, and, more importantly, are the corners less empty

You be the judge.

Rear view



Front view



Rear view encased



Front view encased



Finally, let's compare the 28-28 with the BR-CAL.390 & BR-CAL.389 calibers that equip respectively the Bell & Ross BR-X3 Micro-Rotor and the BR-X3 Tourbillon Micro-Rotor.


CALIBER BR-CAL.390 vs CALIBER 28-28 Q SQU

The BR-X3 Micro-Rotor is ref. BRX3M-MR-ST/SCA

The modern geometric architecture is interesting.

However, here again: are the corners less empty? You be the judge.

Rear view encased



Front view encased




CALIBER BR-CAL.389 vs CALIBER 28-28 Q SQU

The BR-X3 Tourbillon Micro-Rotor is ref. BRX3M-TRB-ST/SCR

A rear view of this Tourbillon Bell & Ross isn't available, so we can only compare with the dial view.

But what I find interesting here is to see how obviously the corners of a square movement seem to be almost always left empty.

Here, the four corner screws are clearly filling the void.






credit: Patek Philippe, Gerald Charles and Bell & Ross


In conclusion, while it's clear that Patek Philippe used the existing structure of the caliber 240, I still appreciate the effort they made to produce a square movement, even if the effort could certainly have been more refined.

And from an aesthetic standpoint, even though I'm not into openwork design and find the design of the Bell & Ross bolder and more interesting, I do not consider the 28-28 to be completely unworthy.

Thanks for reading.

Best, Emmanuel

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Champthekid
Apr 17, 2026

Thank you for the work.

AP
AP+
Apr 17, 2026

It’s not up to what we (and they profess) hold as their standard

CO
Concord
Apr 17, 2026

my wife complains i spent too much time in form of ipod, i have no clue how you do it, but i thank you. Best, Ashot

QU
quattro
Apr 17, 2026

Yes, very interesting design. Cheers, Emmanuel

CA
Carlos22
Apr 17, 2026

Another recent release I was comparing is the new Hermes H08 skeleton ($21K) to the new Richard Mille RM 55-01 ($155K) Both based on a Vaucher caliber.

QU
quattro
Apr 17, 2026

Thank you, dear Ashot. Best, Emmanuel

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