Omega Ref. 2365: A Chronometer Restoration
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Omega Ref. 2365: A Chronometer Restoration

By Dr No · Jan 8, 2016 · 32 replies
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Dr No (Art) recounts the challenging journey of restoring his Omega reference 2365, a vintage chronometer with a 30T2rg movement. His detailed narrative highlights the complexities of vintage watch collecting, from sourcing rare parts to identifying subtle inconsistencies, ultimately celebrating the triumph of bringing a cherished timepiece back to life.

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. . . finally ready for its debut. 




Spotted in late '14, purchased spring '15, and on my wrist the first week of '16.  I've posted bits and pieces of it before; here's the story.

Found at the local vintage Omega store; externally impeccable, and a visual inspection of the innards were consistent with my existing knowledge of the reference.  It ran, but poorly.  Of course, I made the usual inquiry, and the price was right, so I made a commitment to buy. 

"No problem," thought I, "all it likely needs is servicing and regulation.  Jack wouldn't sell a watch that was compromised.  And anyways, I know where to find some rg parts." 

A week couldn't have gone by between the time I picked it up and the day I set off for my watchmaker's shop.  After taking the back off and putting it on a timing machine, Ferdinand went to his workbench and returned with the balance assembly and a loupe.

"Take a look at this," he said.



[original balance assembly]

I was looking at the balance thru a loupe.

"See the chopped screw heads and deformed wheel?  This balance is toast.  The watch will never run properly with it."

"Can it be fixed?", I asked.

"No, it's too far gone."

I thought to myself, "Oh, no - this is going to be a repeat of the IWC fiasco*."  And then, I remembered seeing a used but serviceable rg balance assembly for sale on a parts dealer website.  Needless to say, I snagged it pronto, and returned to Ferdinand's shop shortly thereafter.

"Ah, this balance . . .




. . . is gut!"  (Ferdinand is originally from Austria.)

"Phew!," thought I, "dodged a bullet there."  And so I waited patiently for him to finish servicing the movement.  By the end of June, it was ready.




Was it ready to wear?  No.  I had to accessorize it, and not just any strap or buckle would do.   In my usual plodding fashion, it took five months to source both items; not until December was it ready for wrist duty.

Then, I called Bill Sohne.  We used to talk regularly, but last year, we might've had one conversation.  Time to touch bases and compare notes.

"So, Art, what did you get this year?"

"Three Seikos and three Omegas, Bill, including one that might interest you.  A steel reference 2365, in pretty good shape and original."

"Cool!  Send me a pic."

I sent pics of the watch and movement.

"Art . . . you got hosed."

I gulped.  And in an instant, I knew what he was about to say next.

"The anchor is wrong - that's a standard 30T2 item.  Chronometers have beveled and polished anchors."

All along, I'd felt there was something wrong with the anchor (pallet fork), but had chalked it up to oxidation. 




The instant Bill pointed it out, I knew he was right.  And my heart sank, 'cause as any Omega collector know, rg parts are essentially impossible to source anymore.  I revisited my usual suppliers, to no avail. 

Then, I performed a Google search, and up came an image of an rg pallet fork in Sweden.  The next day, I called blomman to see if he could help navigate a transaction, and fortunately, he was able to score the part immediately.  It arrived last week; yesterday, I took the Chronomèter and the precious pallet fork to my watchmaker.



[rg pallet fork on the left]

Finally, I can claim to own a correct ref 2365 cal 30T2SCrg . . . not entirely original from Bienne in terms of parts content, but at least, correct. 







Many thanks, gentlemen.  Your advice and assistance were priceless.

Art

*  Don't ask - my IWC cal 89 experience still hurts!
    This message has been edited by Dr No on 2016-01-08 21:52:24

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rnaden
Jan 8, 2016

An adventure, it sounds like Congrats on finally getting this to run, and most importantly for it to be "right" in your eyes. A very nice one, and though I know next to nothing about vintage watches, I can appreciate the simple beauty of this one, and from what I've read, a very special one too in terms of accuracy and reliability.

DR
Dr No
Jan 8, 2016

. . . around 20,000 altogether, spread over a period of many years, including both variations (central and subsidiary seconds) and both designations (30T2rg / cal 262, 30T2SCrg / cal 281), and fitted to six references. They are all highly esteemed by Omega collectors, mainly because their movements were successful at chronometer trials in the late '40s. This one is now adjusted tolerably well . . . . . . dial down. Sometime in the coming weeks, after I get a handle on its performance on my wrist

NT
NT931
Jan 8, 2016

Kudos to your dedication and persistence, and testimony to the warmth and helpfulness of the collector community. Beautiful watch too!

AM
amanico
Jan 9, 2016

Great catch. Thanks for sharing this story with us. Yes, collecting watches, especially vintage, is not an easy game. The other thing is how great is our community. Always ready to help. Heartwarming story. Bravo, Turo. Nicolas

BL
blomman Mr Blue
Jan 9, 2016

Congratulation, my friend! Good to see this one finally on your wrist! Indeed, vintage watch collecting is not an easy game. Best Blomman

TS
TS1987
Jan 9, 2016

there were so many made. Otherwise the pallet fork would have been harder to track down

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