Mercedes-Benz SL: A Collector's Perspective on German Engineering and Design
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Mercedes-Benz SL: A Collector's Perspective on German Engineering and Design

By Jocke - Bad Santa · Nov 1, 2022 · 21 replies
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Jocke - Bad Santa
Nov 1, 2022

because the can have stop working and I have not been motivated to fix it. I have to do it until next season and I have to get my 450SLC out on the streets again now when it will be 50 years old next year. So it looks like I know what to do in winter.

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patrick_y
Nov 2, 2022

And the Lange is my favorite one - as you already know.

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patrick_y
Nov 2, 2022

My favorite SL, the R129. The R230 with its fancy ABC suspension is too troublesome for me. Looks great, but I'd stay away from the problematic hydraulic ABC suspension. The one after that was too long and big. And this current one is just not special enough (and the idea of a 4 cylinder version of the current SL kind of pokes some holes in the balloon).

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patrick_y
Nov 2, 2022

In the USA market, for SLs, generally the AMG sells best here. Americans generally enjoy cheaper fuel, so we generally have larger engines here. For the past 25 years, Mercedes-Benz USA has not imported an SL with fewer than 8 cylinders. Although now they're considering to bring in an SL43 which will feature a 380 hp 2.0 liter 4 cylinder engine. For me, I'd like to see an AMG GT with that 2.0 liter with that 43 engine in a dry sump format. That'd be cool. But they probably wouldn't do that. And

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patrick_y
Nov 2, 2022

Alfa's 4C didn't sell especially well. Probably because the dealer network didn't see a lot of support and customers weren't certain of how long Alfa would be in business. Ferraris are getting heavy. The 458 was about 50 kg heavier than the 430 which already wasn't light. Lamborghini Huracan is still somewhat reasonable in weight. As is the Porsche 911. They both weigh around the Ferrari 430 or less.

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patrick_y
Nov 2, 2022

The Porsche 911, Ferrari 458, and the Lamborghini Huracan are around 1500 kg, which is about right to slightly heavy. And the Corvette is is 1600 kg! I know it's only 100kg, but that makes a surprisingly large amount of difference! A wider tire does help spread that weight a bit, but still, too much weight. Ideal is right around 1400 kg or less. The Alpine A110 and the Alfa Romeo 4C at 1100 kg would be delightful. The Porsche Cayman, which is lighter than the 911, is right around 1400 kg. Which

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